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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 04:30 PM
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Ok guys so normally I'm the one answering the question but this time I need a little help. I just finished swapping my brakes to a Prelude SRV front brake setup to give me bigger calipers, rotors, pads and to avoid the dreaded hub over rotor.

I was putting my sway bar links back on (new ones) and noticed the angle of the link is a little worrysome to me (I'm using the stock EX bar and links). Most people would just say screw it and slap it all together, but I'm pretty ****. Personally I think they may end up breaking down alot quicker due to the angle they're at.

The question is: Should I, could I, use the Prelude SRV sway bar and links in conjunction with the SRV steering knuckes on a CD5 chassis? Is this compatible? Will it be worth it to do this (will I be better off then with the Accord links and bar)? Is the wheelbase the same, thus allowing compatability?

Any info is greatly appreciated.

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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 03:47 AM
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Anybody have any info on this at all?
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 04:03 AM
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I'm not real sure on the compatability of the Prelude sway bar and end links but...

When you did the brake swap did you also swap the lower control arms?
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 04:18 AM
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That I did. There's no way the SRV balljoints would fit into the LCA of the Accord. Everything else is great, just the sway bar that irks me a little bit.
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 04:49 AM
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ah, ok.

I assume the Prelude lower ball joints are bigger? What about having the tapered hole in the Accord LCA opened to fit the Prelude ball joint? Is there enough material there to work with? I'm not sure how big the Prelude ball joints are so I'm not sure if that would work or not but it's a thought. That way though you would be able to still retain the use of the stock sway bar and end links without worrying about the angle of the end links since it would be mounted to stock LCA's.
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 04:56 AM
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This is true, however I feel more confident in having angled sway bars then having to bore out the hole in the stock Accord LCA. Looking at the Accord LCA I'm not really confident I could do that without affecting the structural integrity of it. I'd much rather have a sway bar link snap then have an LCA give out at the balljoint, that could get ugly especially if on the highway.

I appreciate the thought behind this idea and if the Accord LCAs were a little more beefy it may be something I would consider. But the size differential between the Prelude LBJ and the Accord LCA is just too much of a disparity to allow me to really feel safe doing so. Again, I'm really **** about my car and would never really do something I don't feel safe/confident with.

I do however appreciate the idea, thanks. I may end up just borrowing an SRV sway bar and some links to see if they fit up nicely.
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 05:14 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by khunt0012 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">...the size differential between the Prelude LBJ and the Accord LCA is just too much...</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah, since I don't have the parts in front of me to look at I wasn't sure if it would be possible to do or not. Deffinately don't do it if you feel it'll weeken the Accord LCA, you deffinately wouldn't want it to fail there.

Aside from that idea my only other advise right now would be to try finding a Prelude front sway bar and seeing if it'll fit or not. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.

What is the Prelude SRV equivalent to in US trim? Your from Canada right?
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 05:25 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TouringAccord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Aside from that idea my only other advise right now would be to try finding a Prelude front sway bar and seeing if it'll fit or not. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.

What is the Prelude SRV equivalent to in US trim? Your from Canada right?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yah, I'll probably just have to borrow one off my friends car as his car is out of commission for awhile, hopefully he lets me borrow it. I appreciate you trying. I was just hoping somebody else would know so that I wouldn't have to do the work only to find out that it's worse.

I thought all the Preludes from the US and Canada were the same? An SRV is the top model of Prelude in Canada with the H22, bigger brakes, etc. Not sure what model that is in the US.
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 05:46 AM
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Well, if you do try it out let us know your results.

As for the Prelude models here in the US. I think the 4th Gen (92-96) Prelude we had the S, Si and VTEC. The VTEC model was the top of the line. For the 5th Gen (97-01) Prelude we had the Base model and Type-SH. The Type-SH was the top of the line. Don't quote me on all that though as I'm no Prelude expert, but I'm pretty sure there was no Prelude SRV here.
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 06:29 AM
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Ok, then it's the Prelude VTEC. Same exact car, just a different model name I guess. All the VTEC H22 Preludes in Canada are SRVs, same **** different name. This is all for a 4th gen Prelude BTW.
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 06:49 AM
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ok, I was just wondering so I knew what car you were taking parts from. I assumed 4th gen but I didn't recall reading that anywhere so I just wanted to make sure.
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 07:20 AM
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Kyle, I'll let you borrow my SRV sway bar, once the car is on jack stands. We can see if it fits, but I don't think the bushings/brackets will work. Worth a try.
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 08:03 AM
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Well it doesn't have to be right now. If nobody knows the answer I'll just run with the Accord one for now, maybe test fit the Prelude one some day when you take it off to sell it.
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 03:01 PM
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get some pics up...would a shorter or longer link work? if you get some pics up...something can always be figured out...something SAFE!
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 03:26 PM
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I just tested it out tonight at the shop. When the car settled on the ground they looked pretty darn good and straight. However if it were a little bit shoter it would be ideal. I will post up pictures of the setup once it's all done.

Just realised I'll also have to drill another hole in my torsion bars so that I can bolt it up to the knuckle. No biggy there.
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 04:14 PM
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Is this for the front swaybar?? The 1st gen Odysee sway bar is a direct swap on to the CD5 chassis and its about 3 or 4mm thicker than the stock one.
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 03:10 AM
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nice, glad to hear you were able to try it out and that it looks to be a better fit.

One question though... I'm familiar with torsion bars on say a truck or SUV but not on the Accord. What part are you referring to? Are you referring to something like the radius rod that mounts to the front beam of the cross member and then to the front LCA in the CD chassis?
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 03:17 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cb7-R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is this for the front swaybar?? The 1st gen Odysee sway bar is a direct swap on to the CD5 chassis and its about 3 or 4mm thicker than the stock one.</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats just it, he's not looking for a direct swap. He's looking for something with a better fit for his Prelude brake/knuckle/LCA swap into his CD chassis. The stock swap bar mounted to the Prelude LCA puts the end links at a bad angle which he is worried may fail. So he is looking for something that'll mount to the CD chassis and fit the Prelude LCA sway bar mounting location.
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 03:45 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TouringAccord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">nice, glad to hear you were able to try it out and that it looks to be a better fit.

One question though... I'm familiar with torsion bars on say a truck or SUV but not on the Accord. What part are you referring to? Are you referring to something like the radius rod that mounts to the front beam of the cross member and then to the front LCA in the CD chassis?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yah, I meant the radius rods. I just know them as torsion bars. I don't forsee any issues with drilling them out.
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 04:02 AM
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ok, I just wanted to make sure I was understanding you correctly.
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 04:06 AM
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No problem.

I think I'm going to pull the car out of the shop tonight and see how it all works together. Hopefully everything goes well. It all looks good, but we'll see what happens when I go for a drive.
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 04:15 AM
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good luck Let us know how it goes
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 04:27 AM
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I'll have some pictures up either tonight or tommorow. 11 inch rotors tucked behind 15 inch wheels looks awesome.
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 04:57 AM
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haha, I bet. Sounds good.
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 09:10 AM
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they look awesome tucked behind 16s also,
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