ever heard of this
what you guys think?
http://www.electricsupercharger.com/

 

I think it looks like a waste of $$$...but if you like it, give it a shot.

 

wow....

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lol I can see that thing end up hurting your performance towards the high RPM's because itll be restricting your air flow, have never heard of anybody use this before but isnt it cheaper on ebay?

 

 

i think its waste of money too and not sure any power from it, also like sayed ebay have same thing for cheaper. Hey if u got some money laying around give it a shot

 

They actually do help on the low end. From idle to about 3000 it's good, but then you start to drastically lose power

 

yeah i was thinking about the air flow it might help u around 3000 but after that ull lose power, as higher ur RPM's as much air u need and the electric supercharger spins at same speed the whole time

 

Equivalent to 1 psi.... save your money man.

 

ahh... e-ram. Ive seen this advertised in the back of a mag recently, it was on a miata race car. yes I agree please spend the money else where. Not trying to put in discouraging words but it wont help you hardly at all, and like the others said it will hurt you in some areas. Spend the money on something else man.

 

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What kind of bullshit is that? Guaranteeing that you will gain a minimum amount of power makes sense, but guaranteeing a max? WTF?

 

funny how this topic comes up once in a while..

 

LMFAO!!!

 

You need to read my TURBONATOR THREAD!!
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1541871

 

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youre full of it son, wheres your info??

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1541871&page=5

it does absolutely nothing....

 

ok. Before every one bashes it lets think about it.

It gained 7whp on two civics and was mainly on top end (did not choke the car).
One of the test was a third party magazine.
Its 300 bucks.

Now everyone is saying a waste of money. These gains are on a 1.6 liter civic. On an 2.2 liter it would be slightly more because the gains are based on percentages.

Now having said that How many of you have a off the shelf exhaust or header such as apex, dc, greddy, tanabe etc.........
these cost approx 450-550 dollars.

Now show me one dyno of an h22 or h23 that has gained 8-11 whp on a off the shelf header or exhaust.

And even worse some of you probably own aem pullies which dyno proven add a jaw dropping .5-2 whp.

Ok now i am not saying i would buy one, i probably wouldnt. I mean this thing has been around for years. If given to me would i dyno test it? Absolutely.

I just dont think it is fair for anyone to argue the fact that it is a piece of **** when there is more evidence that it works than that it doesn't.

And the turbonator is not the same thing as the e-ram.

 

geez!! lets all just get a long! lol

 

dont they only work for like one pull? i thought they were charged on a capacitor and loose their charge really quick, so you can do like one 1/4 mile and then have to wait for it to recharge. seems pretty gay.

 

I think as the engine gets bigger, power gains will drop do to blocked airflow. And then you can think about how you'd love to have a mess of electrical parts inside your engine when the thing lets loose! That was always a concern of mine with it.
Vibrant header=10-12whp across the board on an H22! At least mine!

 

this is actually about your signature. the only reason the ctr doesn't have that damper is because of some race series where they could only use "stock" parts.

 

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ya,ya,ya. you have cams. thats why you showed more of a gain. &lt;--just guessing

electrical mess, its probably a 4 wire relayed cicuit powering a blower motor. How manywires needed to solder in a VAFC?

Pleanty of dynos of porches that they work. bigger motor than an h22.

Look we could go on for days about this and i could really give a **** about the product.

If someone really wanted to test it hook up a boost gauge, if it works it will create boost in the IM. If someone thinks it kills top end power the you will loose boost and create a vacum. But boost is boost. 1psi over 0 vacum, which a well tuned na motor would have, well 1 psi wins.

Its just shitty that people say waste of money on something that no one knows dick about and an off the shelf exhaust is an awsome buy because the "welds are nice". I guess I have tried a lot of things on the dyno for power. I mean 240 whp na is not easy and making it last 50k daily driven you have to try little things here and there to see what works.

NirVTECn20--- I am not picking at you. i dont even think you bad mouthed it. But i think you undersand where i am coming from. I know youve spent your fair share of time on the dyno.

 

I dyno tested one of these things, I'm sure you could find my results with a search, but basically I got 2whp on the top end max with it. And, as NirVtecN20 said, I was concerned about it tanking in the intake. I sold it to someone in Texas who used it until it did just that. He was lucky, the **** didn't make it to the motor......

 

I was talking about it self-destructing and the parts being sucked into the intake.

I was going to test one, and I still may! I could use a little extra power in my hatch.
Supposedly the new ones are of better quality than the old ones. I even posted the Dyno sheet from S3 Mag showing what it did for the Test Civic. I just have trouble believing Sponsor Products testing.
$ for $, the cams were the biggest Adder to my setup. They provided 12-15 from 3500-8000rpms! Youre probably right about my results form the header being better b/c of the cams. The funny thing is the Vibrant header/Greddy Exhaust provided less than 2whp from 3500-5000. I was very surprised about that. From 5000-8000 the pair was worth about 15whp/10tq, but that was over a Stock Exhaust and Greddy header.
Intake/Header/Exhaust tuned with a vafc is worth up to 20whp on an H22 from what I have seen.



Modified by NirVTECn2o at 10:23 PM 8/7/2006

 

worthless

 

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Worthless post...And obviously a worthless user. (talking to OneH22A)

If someone wants to buy it, then do it...Just dyno it and see what it does.