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Old Aug 5, 2006 | 05:29 PM
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Ok so looks like i need to replace my bottom end in the SI, ill be pulling the motor have a helms and most of the general knowledge, and tons of friends to help, anyone who has done this, wanna throw me some advice on were you got held up or stuck, and how you go through it would be very much appritiated.
Also i made a list of parts ill probably need for the swap, gonna get everything from Honda, unless there is better options, here is the list, if there is anything else I need let me know, thanks all for your help

Does this all look right??

18229 TENSIONER $51.64 $51.64
18237 OIL SEAL (29X43X8) $4.32 $8.64
18231 SPRING $3.05 $3.05
18228 BELT (124RU26 D-130) $50.50 $50.50
18331 GASKET, OIL PAN $18.90 $18.90
18169 GASKET, CYL HD $58.35 $58.35
18176 GASKET $4.93 $4.93
18323 OIL SEAL (38X50X7.4) $5.87 $5.87
19973 WATER PUMP $89.70 $89.70
19974 GASKET, WATER PUMP $2.23 $2.23
Shipping Information Shipping Method: FedEx 2nd Day ExpressFedEx 3 Day ExpressFedEx Next Day SaverFedEx Residential Service

Subtotal $293.81
*Sales Tax: $0.00
Shipping Charge $14.87
Handling Charge $4.95
Total $313.63

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Old Aug 5, 2006 | 06:20 PM
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i believe you also cannot reuse your studs. well you could but it is not advised. not replacing oil pump?
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Old Aug 5, 2006 | 06:32 PM
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I can get full B16 gasket kits for $199 shipped including the headgasket. PM me if you'd like a kit.

Also while you haver it out, what bearings are you planning on using?

And as stated above replacing the oil pump wouldn't be a bad idea if you can afford it. Throw a set of ARP's in there while you have it apart.
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Old Aug 5, 2006 | 06:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 96-EJ6 B18C &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I can get full B16 gasket kits for $199 shipped including the headgasket. PM me if you'd like a kit.

Also while you haver it out, what bearings are you planning on using?

And as stated above replacing the oil pump wouldn't be a bad idea if you can afford it. Throw a set of ARP's in there while you have it apart. </TD></TR></TABLE>

whats all included in the kit? im useing stock bearings, I have a friend who has a complete b16 block that im gonna swap in, i dont have a whole lot of cash for this, not doing it cuz I want to.
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Old Aug 5, 2006 | 06:58 PM
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label everything...
this will save u time when putting everything back in
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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 10:01 AM
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any more tips?
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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 01:41 PM
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ive done a few swaps and somethin i always forget is to drain the tranny fluid before i pull the axles.. i know it sounds like common sense but if you dont your gonna have oil all over the place... for some reason i never remember to do that! lol
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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 01:48 PM
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haha everyone tells me that seems like its a common thing people forget to do, ill be sure to do that, thanks for the tip.
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 09:15 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2kEM1ebp &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

whats all included in the kit? im useing stock bearings, I have a friend who has a complete b16 block that im gonna swap in, i dont have a whole lot of cash for this, not doing it cuz I want to.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The gasket kit includes every gasket and O-ring in the entire engine, even the (metal) head gasket. These kits are very good quality, we have used them on several engines with absolutely no issues.

ACL bearings may be a good alternitive to using OEM bearings. They are $130 shipped for a full set, including thrust washers.
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 09:19 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 96-EJ6 B18C &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

The gasket kit includes every gasket and O-ring in the entire engine, even the (metal) head gasket. These kits are very good quality, we have used them on several engines with absolutely no issues.

ACL bearings may be a good alternitive to using OEM bearings. They are $130 shipped for a full set, including thrust washers. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Im assuming the gasket kit is not from honda??
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 10:49 AM
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i kept spinning bearings even when i had oil in it so i did my block and comes to find out a thrust bearing came out so i would get some new thrust bearings their only like 10 bucks
they go beside the crank
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 06:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2kEM1ebp &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Im assuming the gasket kit is not from honda??</TD></TR></TABLE>

Correct, however many of the gaskets are made by the same manufacturer that does them for Honda.
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 06:39 PM
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question since I have the motor out is it a good idea to replace the clutch and flywheel? The car has 80xxx on it.
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 07:41 PM
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if you have money to spend then ya replace the clutch. A good tip is when taking off the crank pulley put a screw driver(flat) in the flywheel and use a very stong breaker bar and 19mm socket otherwise your going to have a very hard time.
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 08:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92redhatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you have money to spend then ya replace the clutch. A good tip is when taking off the crank pulley put a screw driver(flat) in the flywheel and use a very stong breaker bar and 19mm socket otherwise your going to have a very hard time. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I have air so im not worried, i have done that part before changed out a few timming belts, shouldnt be a problem thanks for the tip
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 02:09 PM
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and it begins!!! got the car in the garage today, and have started breaking everything down, got the new block on the engine stand, awaiting parts, added a few things to my garage to brighten things up alittle always makes things easier when you can see. I have a bucket full of nuts and bolts already, dont worrie all labled in baggies, and all sensors numbered and writen down, to keep track. ill update as i go.




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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 03:13 PM
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good job men...
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 03:26 PM
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ok so im stuck on trying to take off the shift rod, it says there is a spring holding it in, I already took off the reatainer clip and just cant get the spring out anyone help??



thanks all
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 03:37 PM
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that is called the bitch pin.
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 03:41 PM
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bitch pin indeed LOL

Get an 8mm punch and a hammer. Will come out in a jiffy
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 04:02 PM
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to take off the bitch pin use the bolt that holds the headers into the piping wd 40 the bitch pin then hammer it out with the bolt works like a charm
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 04:54 PM
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so you put the bolt or the 8mm punch in the hole on the bottom and hammer up on it? will the pin come out through the top of the rod???
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 05:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jonathan13 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ive done a few swaps and somethin i always forget is to drain the tranny fluid before i pull the axles.. i know it sounds like common sense but if you dont your gonna have oil all over the place... for some reason i never remember to do that! lol </TD></TR></TABLE>

LoL, yeah, I've done that a few times Oh well, can't be on ur A-game all the time &gt;.&lt;
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 05:06 PM
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correct, I just use the ac compressor bolts (long 8mm bolts) stick it there and it comes out quite easy.
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 05:54 PM
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thanks guys for all the help i have stoped for the day tore up must have cut myself all up, damn honda small areas. Ill get on it again tomorrow, im sure ill find some more things tomorrow
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