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Old Aug 4, 2006 | 09:10 AM
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Vtec killer cams? Why woulld you want to remove vtec?
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Old Aug 4, 2006 | 09:23 AM
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You know, I've seen those before and always wondered. I guess if you wanted an all out race motor, but I think you'd prolly lose power down low.
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Old Aug 4, 2006 | 09:26 AM
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i dont think they "remove" vtec.
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Old Aug 4, 2006 | 09:28 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by y-49 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i dont think they "remove" vtec. </TD></TR></TABLE>

"Here are Toda VTEC Killer Camshafts for B-Series VTEC Engines. These are brand new, and still in the box. Includes both Intake and Exhaust camshafts, and all components necessary to remove VTEC."

I think they do...
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Old Aug 4, 2006 | 09:38 AM
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LOL, basically from my understanding they are non-vtec style cams with the primary lobes being the profiles of a vtec lobe. Basically you have the equivelant of vtec throughout the entire rpm range. Not really a vtec killer, more like vtec ALL THE TIME.
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Old Aug 4, 2006 | 10:13 AM
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It's for race motors, and it DOES eliminate VTEC. If you think about it, there is no sense pushing extra rocker arms & lost-motion assemblies around at 8k rpm where they just become excess baggage. Most racing keeps you on the high cam all the time anyways. VTEC itself is more useful for street motors where low-rpm torque is still very important...
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Old Aug 4, 2006 | 03:24 PM
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oem vtec cams have both a high and low cam lobe. low being for poutting around high being for power. those cams eliminate the low cams so you ride around on the high lift cam profile all the time
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Old Aug 4, 2006 | 07:50 PM
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yep, having all that extra mass in the valvetrain for vtec is not good on a car that doesn't need it so why not eliminate it?
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Old Aug 4, 2006 | 09:07 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GsrTurboCRX88 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">http://www.passwordjdm.com/pro...D=132

Vtec killer cams? Why woulld you want to remove vtec?</TD></TR></TABLE>

if you honestly dont care about how your car sounds at idle, these cams make good power.

but you will sound like an open header camaro at red lights. FYI.
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Old Aug 4, 2006 | 09:44 PM
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yeah those vtec killers are nice...I mean i wouldnt get them for a street car daily driver but on a track car or weekend racer i cound definately see getting these cams..........Or maybe just port the hell out of a pr8 b20 head if i dont want vtec,,but cant really find a p8r head
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Old Aug 4, 2006 | 09:57 PM
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some advice a friend of mine has them in is EK and well damn he had to drive to Houston to get them tuned
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Old Aug 4, 2006 | 10:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by La EF-8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">some advice a friend of mine has them in is EK and well damn he had to drive to Houston to get them tuned</TD></TR></TABLE>

what does it idle at.? and who tuned it? must have beem a pain to get them things to idle... i had problems with my stage2 vtec cams so i couldnt even imagine those thing
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Old Aug 4, 2006 | 10:51 PM
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Default Re: WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THIS? (njcrxsi)

they are strictly for track use, they elminate Vtec because in road racing conditions you don't need variable valve timing and you don;t have to have it engaging/disengaging and have to mess with it, its not going to stop working in the oil pressure drops etc. Of course these cars are constantly in the powerband, thats not what you want with a street car.
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