Gator axle problems
Anybody else have problems with there "Extreme Duty" axles Breaking? ours broke the first time we tried to launch hard and looking at the end that broke looks just like the stock ones did when they broke. if they were chrome moly i would think they would look different in the grain of the steel.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Arturbo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">call me the gator hater, but they are crap. You get what you paid for..</TD></TR></TABLE>
Gator Hater. Ha ha.
Jason
Gator Hater. Ha ha.
Jason
I love my gators, I now have over 80 passes on the same set with no problems. I think Gator needs a new saying. " How bad is the driver behind your the wheel " lol. Imo, Bad or inexperienced drivers break axles.
Modified by uglyasscivic at 1:33 AM 8/4/2006
Modified by uglyasscivic at 1:33 AM 8/4/2006
a friend of mine saw them being made, a dude was just cleaning,painting,and reassembling factory axles in a storage building facility in florida. better buy some driveshaftshop axles.
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i was having big time axle problems and wound up buying a set of gator axles.i think they were stage two or three.can't remember what he was calling them then,but i broke them the first time out.he upgraded me to what he called the high performance axles and they have been wonderful every since.can't say that for the tranny though.
Dont you have the 300m shafts that gator can no longer get? Excessive is talking about the axles they have been selling since ther manufacturer quite making 300m shafts for them. You know the ones that are basically stock with green paint.
Anybody know how to tell if the material is moly or just plain steel? these axles just dont look like they are even heat treated or anything but stock. I am assuming that the ones that uglyasscivic and some others have must be different material than ours because there is no way that these would hold more than a stock axle. Dont worry everybody we have a set of dss axles on the way. I guess we have to take our green "stock" axles and have some people look at them and determine what material they are.
I dont doubt that their has been people that have ran gator axles with no problems. I think that their 300m shafts would hold up fine. BUT that is not what they are selling. They no longer can get 300m parts, so I think they should be more upfront with people buying their products and not sell them axles they "THINK" will hold 700 horsepower or whatever they advertise. In my mind that is speculaition. People have ran stockers with big power and had no problems, but every car, driver, and track is different. People that were lucky enough to get their 300m axles should realize they are not comparing apples to apples.
Very unhappy Customer Jared McCoy.
Very unhappy Customer Jared McCoy.
there are mix emotions about gator.
our input is that they do NOT work good. we were on 25x8.7x13 m/h with gator top-of-the-line...STAGE 3 or whatever they were called.. and they snapped after the 3rd run. 450-475whp only. stock axles we got about 20runs or so.. thought gators would be better, but found out "NOT"......
when there are mixed emotions about a particular company be wise and just buy the BEST...
we are now using DSS.... no problem... there stage5's are AWESOME!!! even on 28" and 600whp+ we haven't broke them......
our input is that they do NOT work good. we were on 25x8.7x13 m/h with gator top-of-the-line...STAGE 3 or whatever they were called.. and they snapped after the 3rd run. 450-475whp only. stock axles we got about 20runs or so.. thought gators would be better, but found out "NOT"......
when there are mixed emotions about a particular company be wise and just buy the BEST...
we are now using DSS.... no problem... there stage5's are AWESOME!!! even on 28" and 600whp+ we haven't broke them......
i called a couple of weeks ago to order another set like mine for a freind and he said he hasn't been able to get the parts for a while now.glen has always been upfront with me and gave me excellent service.
i broke mine on a full throttle shift, on may 20th, i just got it back last week. aug 1st +- didnt break on a launch, but did on a full throttle shift.
the problem i have with them is, i purchased stage 3 mods, ITR 5 lug, and when they got it and called me, they said i am making too much power for stage 2's. i was like wait a min, they are supposed to be stg 3 mods, and they were like yeah you are still making too much power for them.
so when the 5 lug goes, so do the gator stg 3's for some DSS stage 5's.
the problem i have with them is, i purchased stage 3 mods, ITR 5 lug, and when they got it and called me, they said i am making too much power for stage 2's. i was like wait a min, they are supposed to be stg 3 mods, and they were like yeah you are still making too much power for them.
so when the 5 lug goes, so do the gator stg 3's for some DSS stage 5's.
after seing 70384.8 broken gator axles at the track this year, im convinced stock axles are better?
just get some DSS so you dont have to worry about it anymore
just get some DSS so you dont have to worry about it anymore
The statement of the driver is what breaks axles is kinda silly. A good axle shouldn't beak just because a car is harder on his car. From what I was told, they are an accord axle that is prep'd and sold as 300m. That's pretty crappy
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ninesecrx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The statement of the driver is what breaks axles is kinda silly. A good axle shouldn't beak just because a car is harder on his car. From what I was told, they are an accord axle that is prep'd and sold as 300m. That's pretty crappy
</TD></TR></TABLE> Are you crazy? You are saying that a non experienced driver that is running a twin disc clutch and 24-25 inch slicks will be just as good, gental or smooth as someone that has alot of experience? I understand that a lot of non 300m gators are breaking. But why would you buy and axle that you know is only a little bit stonger than stock? I think every axle that is only a little bit stronger than stock is a big POS. The same goes for the prodrives, Jasen broke alot of the bad boy prodrives last year and switched to the DSS's and has not even phased them. Im not sure what to think about the accord axles being sold as a 300m, if its true that is messed up.
I know that the REAL 300m gators are very strong and i will stand by them 100% until I have a bad experience with the axles or customer service.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by uglyasscivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Are you crazy? You are saying that a non experienced driver that is running a twin disc clutch and 24-25 inch slicks will be just as good, gental or smooth as someone that has alot of experience?
I understand that a lot of non 300m gators are breaking. But why would you buy and axle that you know is only a little bit stonger than stock? I think every axle that is only a little bit stronger than stock is a big POS. The same goes for the prodrives, Jasen broke alot of the bad boy prodrives last year and switched to the DSS's and has not even phased them. Im not sure what to think about the accord axles being sold as a 300m, if its true that is messed up.
I know that the REAL 300m gators are very strong and i will stand by them 100% until I have a bad experience with the axles or customer service.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Im not saying that a driver can't take some load off an axle and keep them in the car longer, I am saying that a real quality axle made with 300m should not break easy even if the driver was abusive with them. 300m is really expensive right now and hard to get ahold of. I can see how Gator would pon some other kind of metal off to keep business going. Not saying thats what they have done with others, but I have had multiple customers that bought DSS axles from us when their "300m" axles keep breaking.
Are you crazy? You are saying that a non experienced driver that is running a twin disc clutch and 24-25 inch slicks will be just as good, gental or smooth as someone that has alot of experience?
I understand that a lot of non 300m gators are breaking. But why would you buy and axle that you know is only a little bit stonger than stock? I think every axle that is only a little bit stronger than stock is a big POS. The same goes for the prodrives, Jasen broke alot of the bad boy prodrives last year and switched to the DSS's and has not even phased them. Im not sure what to think about the accord axles being sold as a 300m, if its true that is messed up.
I know that the REAL 300m gators are very strong and i will stand by them 100% until I have a bad experience with the axles or customer service.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Im not saying that a driver can't take some load off an axle and keep them in the car longer, I am saying that a real quality axle made with 300m should not break easy even if the driver was abusive with them. 300m is really expensive right now and hard to get ahold of. I can see how Gator would pon some other kind of metal off to keep business going. Not saying thats what they have done with others, but I have had multiple customers that bought DSS axles from us when their "300m" axles keep breaking.
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If your going to upgrade axles, do it right.
From what I can tell, the 300m's work well. I can't remember ever seeing a set break. They are a good, no drama, option for the less hardcore guys. If your seriously competing though, and running your car as hard as possible, I can't imagine running anything less than the DSS 5's. They are proven over and over. A bit pricey but you'll have the piece of mind.
I don't know about the whole accord axles being sold as 300m's. That sounds like BS.
From what I can tell, the 300m's work well. I can't remember ever seeing a set break. They are a good, no drama, option for the less hardcore guys. If your seriously competing though, and running your car as hard as possible, I can't imagine running anything less than the DSS 5's. They are proven over and over. A bit pricey but you'll have the piece of mind.
I don't know about the whole accord axles being sold as 300m's. That sounds like BS.
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