Does the stock wing help any?
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Re: (eL)
Wings aren't going to help much when you need more grip on the front tires then the back, since the integra is front wheel drive(fwd). If your car was awd/rwd then a wing would be beneficial for downforce on the rear tires for more grip, and stability so the rear doesn't get sloppy.
A wing is purely for looks on a fwd car for example a chevy cobalt ss.
A wing on a subaru sti is functional though as well as mitsu evo.
A wing is purely for looks on a fwd car for example a chevy cobalt ss.
A wing on a subaru sti is functional though as well as mitsu evo.
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The stock one on the non-Type R Integras would probably be classified as a "spoiler" and not a wing. A spoiler will somewhat reduce drag, noticeable at higher speeds.
The "wing" on the Type R Integra, I believe, is strictly for aesthetics. If you look at the way the rear hatch curves down at the end of the car, that design promotoes drag if you look at wind tunnel results. Having a sharp edge there, similar to the newer Civics or BMW's will reduce it. Putting a small "spoiler" there will also do it. Doesn't do much, however.
EDIT: See the sharp edge where the trunk ends?
And look at the sloping curved edge of the Integra. I just took a random picture from this forum.
You will probably notice most vehicles that have sharp ending trunks do not offer spoilers as options, while "sloping" ones do offer them.
The "wing" on the Type R Integra, I believe, is strictly for aesthetics. If you look at the way the rear hatch curves down at the end of the car, that design promotoes drag if you look at wind tunnel results. Having a sharp edge there, similar to the newer Civics or BMW's will reduce it. Putting a small "spoiler" there will also do it. Doesn't do much, however.
EDIT: See the sharp edge where the trunk ends?
And look at the sloping curved edge of the Integra. I just took a random picture from this forum.
You will probably notice most vehicles that have sharp ending trunks do not offer spoilers as options, while "sloping" ones do offer them.
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Re: (integracura)
I say it's somewhat functional.
I like to think Honda/Acura woudlnt just slap a wing on something that didnt help. Kinda like factory body/lips kits, they're functional.
And plus, on the Type-R, EVERYTHING was functional and was for straight up racing.. I don't see why the wing wouldnt be the same.
But on a Chevy Cobalt.. Yep, I belive chevy would throw something together just cause it looked good.
I mean, look at the quality of vehicles they build (Corvette excluded)
I like to think Honda/Acura woudlnt just slap a wing on something that didnt help. Kinda like factory body/lips kits, they're functional.
And plus, on the Type-R, EVERYTHING was functional and was for straight up racing.. I don't see why the wing wouldnt be the same.
But on a Chevy Cobalt.. Yep, I belive chevy would throw something together just cause it looked good.
I mean, look at the quality of vehicles they build (Corvette excluded)
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The rear ITR wing does in fact do something. They did wind tunnel testing on it. I believe it is to help with stabality during braking. Do a search in the ITR forum and you will find a lot of good info on REAL ITR wings.
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Re: Does the stock wing help any? (integracura)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by integracura »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a small stock wing on my teg, does it help alot on down force? or does it help just a little cuz im thinking about taking it off.</TD></TR></TABLE>
It helps the bling factor, and adds the equivalent of 5 hp on the bench racing circuit.
It helps the bling factor, and adds the equivalent of 5 hp on the bench racing circuit.
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Re: Does the stock wing help any? (nsxtasy)
all i know is when i installed my ITR wing, the rear end of my car was alot "heavier" and i have much better stability on the freeway. But i do believe it slowed my car down, due to the excess drag, especially with the windows down...
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Re: Does the stock wing help any? (RaceMyGhost)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RaceMyGhost »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">all i know is when i installed my ITR wing, the rear end of my car was alot "heavier" and i have much better stability on the freeway. But i do believe it slowed my car down, due to the excess drag, especially with the windows down...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Eh, it probably didn't slowed your car down at all. Like the others above posted, it probably only improves stability at high speeds (not those of daily driving).
Eh, it probably didn't slowed your car down at all. Like the others above posted, it probably only improves stability at high speeds (not those of daily driving).
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Re: Does the stock wing help any? (The Droogan Leader)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Honda »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">From Honda...
The aerodynamic goal for the Integra was to achieve greatly improved high-speed driving performance. The primary focus was to balance the forces that would allow for improved front and rear downforce, low turbulence, minimal wind roar in crucial areas such as the windows, excellent follow-through ventilation, and to provide optimum resistance to crosswinds while maintaining a low drag coefficient. This was achieved through extensive wind-tunnel testing with scale models, mockups and prototype vehicle bodies. It also involved extensive racetrack testing, and the use of a Cray supercomputer. One important detail of the aerodynamic package is the one-piece, integral bumper assembly. This unit not only gives the Integra a clean, modern appearance, but its flowing, one-piece construction eliminates gaps between the bumper and the body that tend to produce turbulence and disrupt laminar airflow over the hood.
To achieve maximum aerodynamic efficiency, the Type R also includes a new chin spoiler and a new wing-type rear spoiler, and the vehicle is 15 mm lower in overall height than the Integra GS-R. These contribute to a 30 percent reduction in the coefficient of lift over the Integra GS-R, and a 1 percent improvement in its drag coefficient.
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The aerodynamic goal for the Integra was to achieve greatly improved high-speed driving performance. The primary focus was to balance the forces that would allow for improved front and rear downforce, low turbulence, minimal wind roar in crucial areas such as the windows, excellent follow-through ventilation, and to provide optimum resistance to crosswinds while maintaining a low drag coefficient. This was achieved through extensive wind-tunnel testing with scale models, mockups and prototype vehicle bodies. It also involved extensive racetrack testing, and the use of a Cray supercomputer. One important detail of the aerodynamic package is the one-piece, integral bumper assembly. This unit not only gives the Integra a clean, modern appearance, but its flowing, one-piece construction eliminates gaps between the bumper and the body that tend to produce turbulence and disrupt laminar airflow over the hood.
To achieve maximum aerodynamic efficiency, the Type R also includes a new chin spoiler and a new wing-type rear spoiler, and the vehicle is 15 mm lower in overall height than the Integra GS-R. These contribute to a 30 percent reduction in the coefficient of lift over the Integra GS-R, and a 1 percent improvement in its drag coefficient.
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Re: Does the stock wing help any? (integracura)
it does serve a purpose but if your looking for more downforce get a front lip or canards, or splitters.
but i personally thing if its a DD its just for cosmetic reasons because in order for most downforce applications to take proper effect you need to be at high speeds.
which would mainly be found on a track.
and if you decide to test those products out on the street, i think your stupid and should lose your licence.
but i personally thing if its a DD its just for cosmetic reasons because in order for most downforce applications to take proper effect you need to be at high speeds.
which would mainly be found on a track.
and if you decide to test those products out on the street, i think your stupid and should lose your licence.
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i just took my stock spoiler off my LS, i need to buy some plugs to cover the holes, but im not sure if its me or what but when i took the car on the highway it seems to slowly accelerate. When i was shifting in 4th and 5th gears it was accelerating slower. I think the spoiler helps alot.
But now i might just buy a itr spoiler, instead of putting the old one back on.
But now i might just buy a itr spoiler, instead of putting the old one back on.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by integracura »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">When i was shifting in 4th and 5th gears it was accelerating slower. I think the spoiler helps alot.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Get one of those Placebo brand spoilers...
Get one of those Placebo brand spoilers...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Get one of those Placebo brand spoilers...
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Get one of those Placebo brand spoilers...
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