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Old Apr 23, 2002 | 09:01 AM
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okay, so i go to put my test pipe on today and 3 problems occured: the 3 bolts connecting the mid pipe to the rear flange

they are so rusted and tight GOD i even used my biggest breaker bar and ended up stripping one of them. the 2 bolts on the front flange with the spring were no problem at all with a little muscle. but the 3 bolts in the back do NOT want to come off. so im going to go over to my friends house, he has air gun, gonna try to get them off there, but i seriously doubt it will work, itll probably just end up breaking my wrist, so i guess im just gonna have to cut them off

has anyone had this problem before? how'd you fix it? hit me back soon, cause im gonna piece outta here to goto his house in a few hours after i calm down. im so frickin mad i could kill Honda for using such lame bolts

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Old Apr 23, 2002 | 09:04 AM
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yes...i pulled off my whole exhaust system...laid it out...put on my 6 foot breaker bar...that's right, 6 foot...and got them off with that...but yes they are HELLLLL
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Old Apr 23, 2002 | 09:17 AM
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DAMN! 6 FOOT? i used my 3 footer and stripped one of the bolts

how did you go about getting your exhaust off? wouldnt it be a bitch without a lift?
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Old Apr 23, 2002 | 09:21 AM
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Try some lubricants or penitrants. They might help. Also, try hitting the bar with the hammer--the sudden impact of the hit might jolt them loose. BTW, are you sure your turning them in the right directions? I made that stupid mistake once.
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Old Apr 23, 2002 | 09:29 AM
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I used hella WD-40, and i did try hitting the bolts with my tire iron, but it just ended up stripping it even more.. and yes im pretty sure im turning them the right way... counterclockwise.. im hoping when i goto my friends house he has a bigger jack so i can get a bigger break bar under there, no muffler shops will do it either because its "illegal" to remove it, or something really dumb and stupid like that.
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Old Apr 23, 2002 | 09:40 AM
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the exhaust is pretty easy to get off...like 4 or 5 hangers...them rubber things...not too bad...

also, home depot has some bolt penetrant...made specifically for losening bolts...try that stuff...
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Old Apr 23, 2002 | 09:46 AM
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oxy-acetalyne torch worked fine for me.
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Old Apr 23, 2002 | 10:00 AM
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Try some lubricants or penitrants. They might help. Also, try hitting the bar with the hammer--the sudden impact of the hit might jolt them loose. BTW, are you sure your turning them in the right directions? I made that stupid mistake once.
You guys recommending penetrants and impact tools have obviously never looked at these bolts before. They are practically melted to the back of the cat. I got mine out with a drill and some special steel bits. If I had skipped trying penetrant and a nut cracker I could have had them off in 10mins with a drill.
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Old Apr 23, 2002 | 10:03 AM
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i know. they resemble 3 rust lumps over actual bolts. Use a oxy-acetalyne (sp?) torch. it works wonders.
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Old Apr 23, 2002 | 10:14 AM
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drill and some titanium drill bits. i drilled mine off. lot easier than tryin to cut them off with a hacksaw
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Old Apr 23, 2002 | 10:16 AM
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use liquid wrench, its good stuff!
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Old Apr 23, 2002 | 12:19 PM
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Hmm I think you can apply a couple thousand lb-ft with a 6-foot breaker bar.
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Old Apr 23, 2002 | 12:24 PM
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we used a good ol hacksaw cus we stipped em. took some work, a little muscle but it got done. that was on my friends 4g. on his brothers 4g lude we just had to use a little bolt penatrant and a lot-o-muscle.
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Old Apr 23, 2002 | 12:26 PM
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well i cut the nuts off with a dremel.....
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Old Apr 23, 2002 | 12:47 PM
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Hmm I think you can apply a couple thousand lb-ft with a 6-foot breaker bar.
probably...i used it for the axle nuts and they came off without really trying...and they are at 180 lb-ft
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Old Apr 23, 2002 | 01:01 PM
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yeah I had to work 3 or 4 times harder than he did pushing the brake pedal with no drivers seat in the car.
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Old Apr 23, 2002 | 04:19 PM
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Make sure when you install it, that you use some anti-seeze (sp?) compound so that when you wnat to change it again, you won't have this problem.

That's what i did. Everytime i want to install my test pipe, the bolts are easy to take off and put back on.
Just a suggestion.
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Old Apr 23, 2002 | 07:15 PM
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well i cut the nuts off with a dremel.....
my damn dremel tool doesnt work
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Old Apr 24, 2002 | 06:45 AM
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I had to cut mine. Hack saw and 6 hours of my life.

Got new hardware out of a exhaust seal kit at a local parts store.
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Old Apr 27, 2002 | 08:32 PM
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torch it with mapp gas, propane not hot enough, for a few minutes, then cool, then take off.
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Old Apr 30, 2002 | 06:33 PM
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welp i did finally get the bolts off.. here's a trick u all should love to know

i put a regular breaker bar, with a nother one foot cheater bar on the bolts.. then used my hydrolic jack and jacked the bar up until the nuts broke, then used my 3 foot bar and got them off by hand. it was pretty easy. hope that trick comes in handy one day
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Old May 1, 2002 | 10:27 AM
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haha i used my jack to get the bolts off too
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Old May 1, 2002 | 10:37 AM
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jacks are good for leverage
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