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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 04:53 PM
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I have a 84 crx car that Im making into a drag car. Its already light as **** (mostly fiber flass and plexi glass), coil overs (raised back), laskey stage 2 axles, 24" slicks but now I have to work on the engine. I have a d16a1 and as of right now. Before I do anything I need to get it running. The car as of right now has no dizzy, harness, o2 sensors, injectors, spark plugs so now I need to get that stuff. Just today I bought a ported and rebuilt 14b turbo. I will soon be getting my friends side mount, exhaust mani and adapter plate. I also bought about 8 feet of ic piping (always good to get more than you need) But Im going to want to get this thing running before I slap the turbo on since I want to get a baseline dyno and a few track times and then im going to add on the turbo and other basic mods.

Well Im getting off topic. What my question is is I need a dizzy, ecu, harness and all the stuff I listed above. Anyone have some good suggestions of what I should use? Im also going to be converting from obd0 to obd1 which I'll have to look into since I have no clue how to do it. I know my shop could do it but I'd like to do everything on this car myself. Except for the tuning (I don't "do" tuning) I'd screw it up like I did on my integra.

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Old Jul 28, 2006 | 07:41 PM
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I just got some 450 cc injectors today. All I need is a harness and a d16a1 dizzy now...Anyone know anyone selling either? I forget what its called but Im looking for a integra ls harness. Thanks
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Old Jul 28, 2006 | 07:59 PM
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wrong forum
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Old Jul 28, 2006 | 10:54 PM
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why is it wrong forum? he is talkign converting a crx to obd1... best bet? check tech forum as well. if you want more info might be alot laying around. and use search as well

just convert... w/ what ever ecu and use chrome or something to tune(eh cheaper) just get a ... SOHC ecu its cheap. wont matter for you you are not using a vtec motor anyways.

if information is wrong someone step up and correct me....
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Old Jul 29, 2006 | 02:54 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nappyroots827 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wrong forum </TD></TR></TABLE>
YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT ONCE AGAIN
LIKE THE 600WHP K20 LOL MORON OR YOUR 320WHP ALLMOTOR ZC WITH DC HEADERS LOL
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Old Jul 29, 2006 | 03:26 AM
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I'm unsure if the 84 conv. harness would be the same as the 88-91, but if it is you would need that, the dizzy, ECu and a 4 wire O2 sensor. The dizzy would probebly be the same as the OBD1 DOHC ZC. ECU, find a non vtec OBD1 and have it chipped and socketed. Get the O2 sensor at any parts store.
Your best bet is to check out redpepperracing.com...I'm sure many have done it there on the 84-87.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nappyroots827 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wrong forum </TD></TR></TABLE>
...no its not, he's asking a tech. Q concerning a CRX.

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Old Jul 29, 2006 | 11:24 AM
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lol..... 320hp saw that the other day, halarous....
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Old Jul 29, 2006 | 04:36 PM
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I just got my side mount, exhaust manifold and adapter plate today. So far I've spent $310 on the motor. Now Im looking for a d16a1 dizzy and any kind of ecu/harness.

So are you saying I could just get a zc, d16y7 or a d16a6 and just get that chipped? Either way Im getting it chipped and running chrome. But would either work even though Im dohc and they only have one?

Well Im going to be messing with the suspension soon to see what would be best for launching. Right now the rear is raised up and is stiff as hell which I think will get me the best launches possible. (correct me if Im wrong but Im used to my mustang and thats how I had it set up but Ihad 4 banger springs in the front. But then again this car is FF so I might be wrong)....And can some one show me the thread about the 300+whp na monster? and the 700whp k20? Thanks for the help
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Old Jul 29, 2006 | 04:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Autoworks &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> redpepperracing.com
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I tried to go there but I can't seem to find their website...?
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Old Jul 30, 2006 | 03:35 PM
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i havnt seen a 700whp k20.... all motor. anyways yes just use a obd1 ecu. should be fine. if you need vtec look up there are certain ones that can be "converted" to vtec ecu. but if you are not using vtec you should be fine http://www.pgmfi.org has plentttyyy of info :D. good luck!
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Old Jul 30, 2006 | 04:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nelsmar &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i havnt seen a 700whp k20.... all motor. anyways yes just use a obd1 ecu. should be fine. if you need vtec look up there are certain ones that can be "converted" to vtec ecu. but if you are not using vtec you should be fine http://www.pgmfi.org has plentttyyy of info :D. good luck!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thanks for the link. I'll check that out.
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Old Jul 31, 2006 | 07:57 PM
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I looked at the link you gave me for about an hour and now Im more confused than before about ecu's...Im going to read some more after work tomorrow. I think right now its just an information over load

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Old Aug 1, 2006 | 06:25 PM
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Has that car/engine ever run prior to this?

I think you need to use the vacuum advance distributor from 86-87 Integra's on your '84....unless you totally rewire the car.

If it ran before, and just had some **** ripped off, then that's one thing. But otherwise the wiring sounds like an absolute ******* nightmare. Anything's possible though dude Good Luck
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Old Aug 1, 2006 | 09:11 PM
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Yea the car ran fine. The previous owner ran 12's with this motor with a 65 shot but then the dizzy, harness, plugs, ecu and everything were parted out. The car also has itb's on it right now which Im going to be taking off and replacing with the stock uim.

But this is a side question but how much boost would you guys say a d16a1 could take. They already have a low *** cr and if they are anything like b18b's then they can go 12 no problem. Im thinking 14-16psi is the most it could go with a very friggen good tune (from slowmotion most likely) but either way. Its a d16. I don't know if I should use money to build it or should I just boost it til it blows and then buy another. Im thinking building it would be smarter And again its a d16 so building it will cost nothing. Im hoping to have the car running with the turbo on in the next few weeks. And to have it running by the earliest next Saturday. Im going to dyno it and take it to the track to get a good baseline for the car and then see how much of a difference there is between about 100whp and 300whp

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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 11:42 AM
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And the turbo Im using is a Td05 from a dsm. Im also using a hf manifold. But I think 12-14psi should be fine. Im also looking into building the motor. Because I just don't want to have to go through the hassel of first finding another engine and then putting it in when for the same price I could have a more reliable engine thats also a **** load more powerful.
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http://www.redpepperracing.com/
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 01:48 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Autoworks &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">http://www.redpepperracing.com/</TD></TR></TABLE>

Finally that website works. I've seen like 30 links but it always says "can not find web site"

Before I actually spen some time on there does anyone have a quick answer to my quesiton. That website is on my favorites now since I've had a good amount of people tell me to go there. Thanks
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 04:54 PM
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Ok now I know exactly what I need. I need ANY obd1 engine harness and then ANY obd1 ecu with plugs. Then I'm going to need Slowmotion to wire it up and I also need to get a d16a1 or zc dizzy plus wire a power wire to the ecu and a ground and then I should be set. I was thinking that I would have to do vaccum lines and all that stuff but then I remembered that the car was already running on obd1 and the previous owner just sold the parts and used the harness in another car.

Now the problem is which car should I do first? My prelude or the crx...Im thinking the lude since its my dd. All I need on a lude is a 9psi spring, and a new flex joint for the charge pipe along with some dyno time. But what I want to do is build up its internals so it can take 9psi like it was nothing and then even more when I want to. I think Im going to just get the lude running perfect and then have the crx as the beast. If the lude breaks then the only thing I'll have to drive is the friggen crx which wont be the best dd running 14-15psi in a 1,300lb car...
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