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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 11:22 AM
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Default Si cluster made my HX faster?! WTF.

So before you think this is some stupid ricer thread, you're wrong. This is gonna sound really stupid but just read it.

Yesterday I installed an Si cluster I purchased online. I had done a 5spd conversion a while back and still had the old HX cluster in the blinking lights and **** from park and Drive were starting to annoy the hell out of me, and not to mention it isn't as good looking as the Si cluster. So after I put it in I headed out to the movies with the GF and I was noticing a HUGE difference in the car, VTEC-E was actually engaging unlike months before (Which was most likely due to running the automatic ECU still and all the codes from the Auto CVT tranny and whatnot? That's what I think.) What I'm wondering what coulda caused this? The sudden engagement of VTEC-E? I drove around for about a year without this damn thing engaging and it felt like my car was going to suffocate sometimes. I'd floor it and it would pick up so slow it was hard to merge into traffic on the freeway, but last night it was a breeze. So yea, any input on what the hell coulda happend is appreciated.
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 11:36 AM
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Larry, you got your auto to manual already? Gee thanks for little me know, what a **** Howd you like it.

Dont know why you think your VTEC-E wasnt engaging when you had your old cluster, that has nothing to do with VTEC. But glad its working out for you.
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 11:47 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Luserkid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Larry, you got your auto to manual already? Gee thanks for little me know, what a **** Howd you like it.

Dont know why you think your VTEC-E wasnt engaging when you had your old cluster, that has nothing to do with VTEC. But glad its working out for you. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yea I know but it's quite the coincidence that it happend after I swapped clusters that's all. Maybe I fried something when I disconnected the battery? Haha.

But yea I've been running the Manual for a while now. It's amazing, definately a huge improvement over the stupid Auto CVT. 1 Infinite gear wasn't cutting it for me. Haha.
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 11:59 AM
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i would just like to say....WEIRD....a cluster making your cars' VTEC stronger.....ahahahahahahahaha
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 12:18 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek4_b16a &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i would just like to say....WEIRD....a cluster making your cars' VTEC stronger.....ahahahahahahahaha </TD></TR></TABLE>

Well it didn't make it stronger.. but after I installed it VTEC-E was ACTUALLY ENGAGING unlike before. So it's quite a weird coincidence.
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 12:22 PM
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Uhh...definitly not. Your butt dyno must have been off scale the day before or something...
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 12:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SkoundrelUSA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Uhh...definitly not. Your butt dyno must have been off scale the day before or something...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Nope the car wouldn't even get upwards NEAR 90mph before hand before it would feel like it was being sufficated. MPH Pick up was INCREDIBLY slow at WOT. I'm not dumb though, I know a Gauge Cluster change doesn't make any gains WHATSOEVER but I just find it weird. The only thing different was that I didn't hook up the green plug (For the automatic crap)
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 12:39 PM
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It's possible, possible that the Auto cluster messed with your ecu thinking it was in neutral or something thus having different maps and no v-tec.


Modified by juevi at 4:51 PM 7/27/2006
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 12:49 PM
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what ecu are u running?
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 01:15 PM
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Don't know the numeration but it's the stock AUTO ECU that comes on the HX.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by juevi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's possible, possible that the Auto cluster messed with your ecu thinking it was in neutral or something thus having different maps and no v-tec.


Modified by juevi at 4:51 PM 7/27/2006</TD></TR></TABLE>

Hmm. That's what I was thinking. Well I had rig some wires to make the car think it's in park in order to take out the key. And when my CVT tranny went bad the D on the cluster was blinking, and while I was driving the car around with the tranny messed up VTEC-E wouldn't engage. Then ofcourse the Tranny completely went bad and wouldn't go into any gear whatsoever. But this whole time since i swapped out to a 5spd the D had been blinking still with the Light in Park on too. Those lights were really annoying actually.
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 01:58 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by juevi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's possible, possible that the Auto cluster messed with your ecu thinking it was in neutral or something thus having different maps and no v-tec.


Modified by juevi at 4:51 PM 7/27/2006</TD></TR></TABLE>

Impossible...
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 02:16 PM
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Impossible...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Alrighty then.
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 02:28 PM
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that's funny LOL, i highly doubt it, but if it works out for you and makes you feel good, then i guess that's what counts!
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 02:32 PM
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dude... sell me your cluster!
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 02:34 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlackHXCoupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So before you think this is some stupid ricer thread, you're wrong. This is gonna sound really stupid but just read it.

Yesterday I installed an Si cluster I purchased online. I had done a 5spd conversion a while back and still had the old HX cluster in the blinking lights and **** from park and Drive were starting to annoy the hell out of me, and not to mention it isn't as good looking as the Si cluster. So after I put it in I headed out to the movies with the GF and I was noticing a HUGE difference in the car, VTEC-E was actually engaging unlike months before (Which was most likely due to running the automatic ECU still and all the codes from the Auto CVT tranny and whatnot? That's what I think.) What I'm wondering what coulda caused this? The sudden engagement of VTEC-E? I drove around for about a year without this damn thing engaging and it felt like my car was going to suffocate sometimes. I'd floor it and it would pick up so slow it was hard to merge into traffic on the freeway, but last night it was a breeze. So yea, any input on what the hell coulda happend is appreciated. </TD></TR></TABLE>

hey did the Si cluster hook right up to your HX? or did you have to modify it?
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 02:34 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by philosofy1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that's funny LOL, i highly doubt it, but if it works out for you and makes you feel good, then i guess that's what counts!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yea I know, it's very weird for this to have happend when I installed the Cluster. At first I was seriously thinking WTF? I don't care what happend, as long as the cars running how it SHOULD be running finally.
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 02:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hagop_d33 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

hey did the Si cluster hook right up to your HX? or did you have to modify it?</TD></TR></TABLE>

It hooked right up. Just didn't plug in the green plug that was for the automatic crap.
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 02:57 PM
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Your signature is GAY
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 02:58 PM
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I take that back.
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 03:05 PM
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Im gunna buy a skyline cluster for my car. ......no any way that is really wierd. I never heard of anything like that before. Buy an si shift **** and see what that does.
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 05:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Super Trooper &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Your signature is GAY </TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Super Trooper &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I take that back.</TD></TR></TABLE>
lol ok.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Civic Hybrid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im gunna buy a skyline cluster for my car. ......no any way that is really wierd. I never heard of anything like that before. Buy an si shift **** and see what that does. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Did you even read the thread? I'm not saying IT IS the reason or that it gave me any power gains. But my car coincidentally started ACTUALLY ENGAGING into VTEC-E unlike before, how it wouldn't.
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 05:46 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Civic Hybrid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im gunna buy a skyline cluster for my car. ......no any way that is really wierd. I never heard of anything like that before. Buy an si shift **** and see what that does. </TD></TR></TABLE>

You know, the R32 cluster looks similar in shape to an EG cluster. However, it's driven by a cable.
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 06:07 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlackHXCoupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Yea I know but it's quite the coincidence that it happend after I swapped clusters that's all. Maybe I fried something when I disconnected the battery? Haha.

But yea I've been running the Manual for a while now. It's amazing, definately a huge improvement over the stupid Auto CVT. 1 Infinite gear wasn't cutting it for me. Haha. </TD></TR></TABLE>

maybe the ecu had some codes stuck in it and was running in limp mode or something. When you disconnected the battery you also reset your ecu, maybe this is the difference you are noticing?

just a thought
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 06:46 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by egsleepercivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

maybe the ecu had some codes stuck in it and was running in limp mode or something. When you disconnected the battery you also reset your ecu, maybe this is the difference you are noticing?

just a thought </TD></TR></TABLE>

Probably. That did run through my head.
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 07:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by egsleepercivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">maybe the ecu had some codes stuck in it and was running in limp mode or something. When you disconnected the battery you also reset your ecu, maybe this is the difference you are noticing?

just a thought </TD></TR></TABLE>

i was also thinking this but i think you would know if you were running in limp mode. was the vtec-e engaging before you did the manual swap? or did it feel the same?
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