Hi I want to know if turboing a type r engine is a good idea? Is it going to be a waste of money or what?

Thanks

 

Eh you can but I wouldn't Id trade it for a GSR and some cash for you turbo

 

It's not worth it bang for buck but if you have money to tear it apart change what is needed it's a good motor to turbo.

as Loserkid said a c1 is much better price wise.

 

ok soo which motor is more reliable? type r or something different? im new to the honda scene

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JaSoNe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok soo which motor is more reliable? type r or something different? im new to the honda scene</TD></TR></TABLE>
For boost the c1 willl hold more psi stock
the typeR is more tuned for N/A but can be changed to hold boost well.

If you are new SEARCH a ton.

 

Ass_assin is dishing out nice answers to newbs tonight

If I had the option to even buy a c5 motor, because my pockets were deep, I'd just keep it stock. If I were going turbo, I'd buy a cheaper b series motor.

 

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If I had the option to even buy a c5 motor, because my pockets were deep, I'd just keep it stock. If I were going turbo, I'd buy a cheaper b series motor.</TD></TR></TABLE>
What can I say, Max is a nice drunk.

c1+ 10psi on a good turbine =

 

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What can I say, Max is a nice drunk.

c1+ 10psi on a good turbine = </TD></TR></TABLE>

spell question right next time Jasone you ******* noob

 

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spell question right next time Jasone you ******* noob </TD></TR></TABLE>
Thanks for doing it for me

 

sowy... umm thanks for the info i guess

 

what about a b16a boosted i understand it not as powerful but costed less and easier to install

 

Well i was assuming he has an ITR or B18c5 powered car but i still would take eith over a B16 any day...maybe not a B16b...but boosted b16 don't impress me for some reason always like boosted B18's either a, b, c1, or c5

 

i hear ya but if he want a good motor for cheap and have more money to spend on a turbo. then i would go with b16. but i would take b18 any day over a b16 for turbo

 

the gsr head casting works better for boost, even though Type R/B16 casting works better NA. Plus it has reasonable compression, which will give you a better tuning buffer.

 

i have an ITR motor in my car, and i LOVE it. if you're set on doing a turbo, i would go with the GSR motor. for one, you wont feel as broken-hearted parting with the molybdenum pistons (which is what the ITR has)... one of the main reasons the ITR motor costs more is because it uses this low-friction metal for its pistons. the GSR doesnt, so you can get it cheaper, and you arent paying extra for a part you'll be selling anyway.

but the ITR motor, as kept NA, is awesome. and not to mention that you can throw it in there, beat it all day (thats what it was designed for), and not really worry about reliability. turbo engines, as it seems to me, become time bombs. not because of the technology, but because of the owners that always want to crank the boost **** just a liiiittle higher.... its too tempting, you know?

 

Hey thanks for the info... my plan was to get a gt28 turbo which is a smaller turbo and only boost it to say 8psi? Good idea? I dont think 8psi isnt too much

 

ITR=NA
GSR=Boost

 

Depending which GT28 you are talking about it isn't a small turbo and not cheap either

 

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hes got a point u need to find and smaller turbo to reduce the lag. correct me if i'm wrong but a stock eclipse turbo can push like 12 psi. the bigger the turbo the more the lag. 8 psi might be fine.
i don't know turbos #

u might want to up the fuel system abit

 

Psi is irrelavant that number is different with every turbo...you can run 8 psi on a t25 and 8psi on a T4...8psi is 8psi but the amount of cfm's (air flowing into the engine) will be very different...look at turbos for power goals not psi goals

Honestly the T3 plateform is much more versitlemany options for size of turbos small t3 to a larger t3/t4

If you learn how to ready compression maps ( I still can't) you will be able to find a turbo that won't lag much and will make the power you plan to make...I suggest looking a Blaast performance ( http://www.blaastperformance.com ) e-mail them and they will help you find a turbo that is right for your set-up and they have really good prices, I will be getting my next turbo from them

If you don't know you will need to upgrade fuel to accomidate a turbo, atleast larger injectors and some type of fuel comtroller either FMU AFC or Chipped ECU ( those or in order from worste to best )

Oh and one last thing to clear it up a stock DSM turbo either T25 or 14b is way to small for a Type R or GSR...they will lag (whoops ment SPOOL) way to quick and you will have nothing up top and choke out the motor...for any high reving vtec motor i would atleast look at a T3/T4 turbo


Modified by Loserkidwac at 12:30 PM 7/27/2006

 

I'm a post *****....

I when i said:

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I was correcting this statement that it was a smaller turbo:

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The GT28 is a good turbo If you have the cash get one i just tink you can get a ball bearing T3/T4 for the same cash that will make more power and easier to find B series T3 turbo manifold than T25 flanged manis...Although I think the GT28 may spool quicker but you can still make upwards of 450hp with one

 

good info to know so its not the psi that matters it the amount of air being force into the motor. that make since

 

thanks for the great inputs!!! :D

 

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Exactly...like a T25 might take 20psi to make 250hp on a LS or you could use a T3/T4 and make 250hp at 8psi... thats just an example numbers probably aren't right ( i don't even think a T25 will make 250)

a more efficient turbo will take less boost to make the same power but every turbo has its ideal situation and power outputs, thats why compressor maps are great because you can find a turbo that will make the power you want at the rpm you want, well within reason of course, not gonna make 400whp at 1500rpms

 

i seen a turbo have 18 psi at idle. it was one to the turbos that can eliminate turbo lag.not for driving just a deminstation. oo and i was told that a stock b16a can hold 14 psi if the fuel can keep up withit. like if it get to lean u'll blow it but if u keep the fuel middle it fine. i think that wrong but i heard it.