Question about GC Spring Rates..
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Question about GC Spring Rates..
I am looking to buy some GC coilovers from someone with 10k miles on them. He said this about the spring rates.
"For the front it says "GC200.64.58" and for the rear it says "GC180.64.44""
Are these off the shelf spring rates? I want some off the shelf spring rates that will give me a good daily drive on my 00 coupe. I plan to be about 2.5" lowered all around.
Mike
"For the front it says "GC200.64.58" and for the rear it says "GC180.64.44""
Are these off the shelf spring rates? I want some off the shelf spring rates that will give me a good daily drive on my 00 coupe. I plan to be about 2.5" lowered all around.
Mike
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Yes those are the off the shelf springs from ground control.
180.64.44 = 7" x 2.5" x 250 lbs/in
200.64.58 = 8" x 2.5" x 325 lbs/in
The fronts will be the 325 lbs/in and the rear is 250 lbs. I bought the same kit for my 00 coupe and wasnt happy with the rubbing. I dropped mine about 2 inches and the wheels rubbed when i hit any bump. I ended up buying a 10" x 2.5" x 450 lbs/in springs for the front and put the 325 in the rear. It solved the rubbing issue when i hit bumps but the ride is pretty stiff. I never rolled my fenders to correct the rubbing issue so i got stiffer springs to help.
If you want to keep a nice ride stiffness with a 2.5" drop just roll the fenders and take out the inner fenderwell plastic panels. That should solve the problem. Also i dont see what's wrong with buying used springs. Its not like shocks that go bad after 100K miles. If you get a good deal go for it.
Here's a few pics of my car that lowered between 2 and 2.5"
180.64.44 = 7" x 2.5" x 250 lbs/in
200.64.58 = 8" x 2.5" x 325 lbs/in
The fronts will be the 325 lbs/in and the rear is 250 lbs. I bought the same kit for my 00 coupe and wasnt happy with the rubbing. I dropped mine about 2 inches and the wheels rubbed when i hit any bump. I ended up buying a 10" x 2.5" x 450 lbs/in springs for the front and put the 325 in the rear. It solved the rubbing issue when i hit bumps but the ride is pretty stiff. I never rolled my fenders to correct the rubbing issue so i got stiffer springs to help.
If you want to keep a nice ride stiffness with a 2.5" drop just roll the fenders and take out the inner fenderwell plastic panels. That should solve the problem. Also i dont see what's wrong with buying used springs. Its not like shocks that go bad after 100K miles. If you get a good deal go for it.
Here's a few pics of my car that lowered between 2 and 2.5"
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Re: (TurboLaxx)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TurboLaxx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes those are the off the shelf springs from ground control.
180.64.44 = 7" x 2.5" x 250 lbs/in
200.64.58 = 8" x 2.5" x 325 lbs/in</TD></TR></TABLE>
This is correct.
To convert the metric part numbers to imperial units, use these conversion factors: (/25.4, /25.4, *5.6). This will convert (mm.mm.kg-mm) to (in.in.lbs-in). The first number is the spring length, the second number is the inner diameter, and the third number is the spring rate.
180.64.44 = 7" x 2.5" x 250 lbs/in
200.64.58 = 8" x 2.5" x 325 lbs/in</TD></TR></TABLE>
This is correct.
To convert the metric part numbers to imperial units, use these conversion factors: (/25.4, /25.4, *5.6). This will convert (mm.mm.kg-mm) to (in.in.lbs-in). The first number is the spring length, the second number is the inner diameter, and the third number is the spring rate.
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Re: (TurboLaxx)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TurboLaxx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes those are the off the shelf springs from ground control.
180.64.44 = 7" x 2.5" x 250 lbs/in
200.64.58 = 8" x 2.5" x 325 lbs/in
The fronts will be the 325 lbs/in and the rear is 250 lbs. I bought the same kit for my 00 coupe and wasnt happy with the rubbing. I dropped mine about 2 inches and the wheels rubbed when i hit any bump. I ended up buying a 10" x 2.5" x 450 lbs/in springs for the front and put the 325 in the rear. It solved the rubbing issue when i hit bumps but the ride is pretty stiff. I never rolled my fenders to correct the rubbing issue so i got stiffer springs to help.
If you want to keep a nice ride stiffness with a 2.5" drop just roll the fenders and take out the inner fenderwell plastic panels. That should solve the problem. Also i dont see what's wrong with buying used springs. Its not like shocks that go bad after 100K miles. If you get a good deal go for it.
Here's a few pics of my car that lowered between 2 and 2.5"
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You are also running what looks like 17s. I have 15s. Thats why you were rubbing when you hit bumps and what not. 17s are way to big on hondas.
Mike
180.64.44 = 7" x 2.5" x 250 lbs/in
200.64.58 = 8" x 2.5" x 325 lbs/in
The fronts will be the 325 lbs/in and the rear is 250 lbs. I bought the same kit for my 00 coupe and wasnt happy with the rubbing. I dropped mine about 2 inches and the wheels rubbed when i hit any bump. I ended up buying a 10" x 2.5" x 450 lbs/in springs for the front and put the 325 in the rear. It solved the rubbing issue when i hit bumps but the ride is pretty stiff. I never rolled my fenders to correct the rubbing issue so i got stiffer springs to help.
If you want to keep a nice ride stiffness with a 2.5" drop just roll the fenders and take out the inner fenderwell plastic panels. That should solve the problem. Also i dont see what's wrong with buying used springs. Its not like shocks that go bad after 100K miles. If you get a good deal go for it.
Here's a few pics of my car that lowered between 2 and 2.5"
</TD></TR></TABLE>You are also running what looks like 17s. I have 15s. Thats why you were rubbing when you hit bumps and what not. 17s are way to big on hondas.
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Re: (mikeunreal2)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mikeunreal2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You are also running what looks like 17s. I have 15s. Thats why you were rubbing when you hit bumps and what not. 17s are way to big on hondas.
Mike</TD></TR></TABLE>
A little info for you about rumors. No 17's arent too big for honda's if you get the correct tires.
Stock honda tires are 185/65 R14
Mine are 205/40 R17
Plug these values into this handy tire calculator found here:
http://www.discounttiredirect....S.jsp
You'll see that the overall diameter difference between factory and what i have is .01". So the outside of the tire is the same size as factory. This means it doesnt matter what tire i run because both would rub the same. Stop listening to people that say 17" are too big for honda's. They dont know what they're talking about. Reaseach stuff before you follow the band wagon.
Mike</TD></TR></TABLE>
A little info for you about rumors. No 17's arent too big for honda's if you get the correct tires.
Stock honda tires are 185/65 R14
Mine are 205/40 R17
Plug these values into this handy tire calculator found here:
http://www.discounttiredirect....S.jsp
You'll see that the overall diameter difference between factory and what i have is .01". So the outside of the tire is the same size as factory. This means it doesnt matter what tire i run because both would rub the same. Stop listening to people that say 17" are too big for honda's. They dont know what they're talking about. Reaseach stuff before you follow the band wagon.
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Re: (TurboLaxx)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TurboLaxx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
A little info for you about rumors. No 17's arent too big for honda's if you get the correct tires.
Stock honda tires are 185/65 R14
Mine are 205/40 R17
Plug these values into this handy tire calculator found here:
http://www.discounttiredirect....S.jsp
You'll see that the overall diameter difference between factory and what i have is .01". So the outside of the tire is the same size as factory. This means it doesnt matter what tire i run because both would rub the same. Stop listening to people that say 17" are too big for honda's. They dont know what they're talking about. Reaseach stuff before you follow the band wagon.</TD></TR></TABLE>
it may be too wide at that drop thogh, 195's are 10mm slimmer and that might make the diffrence
A little info for you about rumors. No 17's arent too big for honda's if you get the correct tires.
Stock honda tires are 185/65 R14
Mine are 205/40 R17
Plug these values into this handy tire calculator found here:
http://www.discounttiredirect....S.jsp
You'll see that the overall diameter difference between factory and what i have is .01". So the outside of the tire is the same size as factory. This means it doesnt matter what tire i run because both would rub the same. Stop listening to people that say 17" are too big for honda's. They dont know what they're talking about. Reaseach stuff before you follow the band wagon.</TD></TR></TABLE>
it may be too wide at that drop thogh, 195's are 10mm slimmer and that might make the diffrence
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Re: (TurboLaxx)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TurboLaxx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A little info for you about rumors. No 17's arent too big for honda's if you get the correct tires.
Stock honda tires are 185/65 R14
Mine are 205/40 R17
Plug these values into this handy tire calculator found here:
http://www.discounttiredirect....S.jsp
You'll see that the overall diameter difference between factory and what i have is .01". So the outside of the tire is the same size as factory. This means it doesnt matter what tire i run because both would rub the same. Stop listening to people that say 17" are too big for honda's. They dont know what they're talking about. Reaseach stuff before you follow the band wagon.</TD></TR></TABLE>
They look too big, they might not physically be too big. That is what i meant...
Stock honda tires are 185/65 R14
Mine are 205/40 R17
Plug these values into this handy tire calculator found here:
http://www.discounttiredirect....S.jsp
You'll see that the overall diameter difference between factory and what i have is .01". So the outside of the tire is the same size as factory. This means it doesnt matter what tire i run because both would rub the same. Stop listening to people that say 17" are too big for honda's. They dont know what they're talking about. Reaseach stuff before you follow the band wagon.</TD></TR></TABLE>
They look too big, they might not physically be too big. That is what i meant...
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Re: Question about GC Spring Rates.. (Archidictus)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Archidictus »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Don't buy used springs, especially coilover sleeves.</TD></TR></TABLE>
What is wrong with buying used stuff?
Mike
What is wrong with buying used stuff?
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Re: Question about GC Spring Rates.. (mikeunreal2)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Archidictus »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Don't buy used springs, especially coilover sleeves.</TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mikeunreal2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What is wrong with buying used stuff?
Mike</TD></TR></TABLE>
I don't see anything wrong with using used coilovers unless they are rusted or damage. I'm using my old G-C coilover i had on my hatch for 3year in my other hatch.
Mike</TD></TR></TABLE>
I don't see anything wrong with using used coilovers unless they are rusted or damage. I'm using my old G-C coilover i had on my hatch for 3year in my other hatch.
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