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Old Apr 21, 2002 | 09:55 AM
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Default 96spec ITR brakes vs. 98spec ITR brakes

Those who are familiar with JDM ITR's (specifically 96spec) know if 96spec brakes are just as good as the 98spec ITR brakes?

I don't need the answer that I already know... 4-lug bolt pattern vs. 5-lug bolt pattern.

I would like to know if any brake mechanical parts are different between the two. And, of course, the performance difference between the two. (eg master cylinder, brake lines, change in design, calier size, etc., etc., etc.)

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Old Apr 21, 2002 | 10:26 AM
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96 jdm itr brakes use the same rotor caliper set-up as the usdm gsr...if you use the 98 jdm itr brakes you have to use the axles as well...the axle nuts are 36mm...not 32 like ctr and usdm itr...hope this helps
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Old Apr 21, 2002 | 10:42 AM
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96 jdm itr brakes use the same rotor caliper set-up as the usdm gsr...if you use the 98 jdm itr brakes you have to use the axles as well...the axle nuts are 36mm...not 32 like ctr and usdm itr...hope this helps
So, you're saying that 96spec ITR brakes = USDM GSR brakes? Why would they even bother putting on different bolt pattern (4x114.3mm) on those then? Also, AFAIK, 96spec brakes perform just as well as 98spec brakes... but what you're saying is that 96spec brakes are only good as GSR brakes. I'm confused.
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Old Apr 21, 2002 | 12:12 PM
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i'm guessing that the 4x114 will not let the rim flex as much under hard cornering. but yeah.. the pads are the same 96 itr = usdm gsr pads..
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Old Apr 21, 2002 | 01:25 PM
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what about the size of the center cap , where the rim goes mounted .??
is the 98 spec r differen then us itr ??
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Old Apr 21, 2002 | 01:42 PM
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yup. its true, same size. whats wierd however is that the 96 suspension still uses the larger R wheel bearing, like all other years, which is a good thing. the master cylinder looks like it could be different/bigger, but i can't be sure.
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Old Apr 21, 2002 | 01:45 PM
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whats wierd however is that the 96 suspension still uses the larger R wheel bearing, like all other years, which is a good thing.
i'm under the impression that wheel bearings between all model tegs are the same... considering i've used a knuckle from a gsr, with a 5 bolt ITR hub, and wheel bearing from acura parts...

correct me if i'm wrong, but i'm pretty damn sure they're all the same.

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Old Apr 21, 2002 | 01:45 PM
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what about the size of the center cap , where the rim goes mounted .??
is the 98 spec r differen then us itr ??
No.
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Old Apr 21, 2002 | 02:00 PM
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the reason i ask , cause wen they did my 5 lug and use the itr rims , they wouldnt fit in to they open it just a little . they said that had to do with some one putting 0 rings around the center cap but the thing was that at the front they wouldnt bolt on with out being open some!
Sorry, I'm not following what you're trying to say.
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Old Apr 21, 2002 | 02:00 PM
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english muthafucka... speak it.
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Old Apr 21, 2002 | 02:02 PM
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english muthafucka... speak it.
I guess that's another way of putting it.
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Old Apr 21, 2002 | 02:05 PM
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never mind !!
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Old Apr 21, 2002 | 02:08 PM
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So... what are the differences between 96spec and USDM GSR brakes?

We covered:
1. Different lug pattern (4x114.3mm vs. 4x100mm)
2. Master Cylinder (???)

What else?
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Old Apr 21, 2002 | 02:10 PM
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let see , if i can explain it right ! went i had the 5 lug done on my civic , they ran in to a problem. the problem was that the front itr rims wouldnt fit .so in order to solve it they had to open the center part of the rim,in order to fit.This was done to the front rims ,and the explanation for all of this was that some people attent to put some type of 0 rings in the center caps. regarless what ever it was they had to modified some in order for the rims to sit properly , any one has any ideas ??
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Old Apr 21, 2002 | 02:11 PM
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looks like you're right. the part number for the bearings is the same. me. ouch.
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Old Apr 21, 2002 | 02:13 PM
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let see , if i can explain it right ! went i had the 5 lug done on my civic , they ran in to a problem. the problem was that the front itr rims wouldnt fit .so in order to solve it they had to open the center part of the rim,in order to fit.This was done to the front rims ,and the explanation for all of this was that some people attent to put some type of 0 rings in the center caps. regarless what ever it was they had to modified some in order for the rims to sit properly , any one has any ideas ??
I think the problem you ran into was some moron before you fiddled with the centercaps for whatever reason and that led to problems for you.

Yet another reason why idiots should leave stuff alone if they don't know what they're doing.
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Old Apr 21, 2002 | 02:17 PM
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some say its for a tight fit, but oh well what can you do right ? the only thing that may also affect me is that went i buy some other rims .like right now im looking for 2 front ones ,for drag . to see if i really dont have to be modified
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Old Apr 21, 2002 | 02:28 PM
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i think he's talking about the hubcentric rings, for anyone who's confused.
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Old Apr 21, 2002 | 02:29 PM
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i think he's talking about the hubcentric rings, for anyone who's confused.
thanks that was the closest that i could describe it and yes i know !
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Old Apr 21, 2002 | 02:32 PM
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brakes!
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Old Apr 21, 2002 | 02:32 PM
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96spec ITR brakes are the same as the GSR's and the Civic's. Honda's theory was that, the brakes on the GSR are good enough. Now they have a lighter car so it should be fine. But nope.... so they upgraded the brakes when it came out in the US in 97 and the 98spec.
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Old Apr 21, 2002 | 02:42 PM
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96spec ITR brakes are the same as the GSR's and the Civic's. Honda's theory was that, the brakes on the GSR are good enough. Now they have a lighter car so it should be fine. But nope.... so they upgraded the brakes when it came out in the US in 97 and the 98spec.
Thanks, Wai! That's probably the exact answer that I was looking for (more or less).

Cos - scratch 96spec brakes idea.
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Old Apr 21, 2002 | 03:33 PM
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i think i udnerstand what you're saying now. you're saying that since you have 98 spec 5 lug the hub is different, and they had a hard time getting your 5 lug wheels on (maybe because they arent 98 spec?). so what your asking is that if theres a difference between the 98 & pre 98 spec in terms of what size hubcentric ring to use?
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Old Apr 21, 2002 | 04:14 PM
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i think i udnerstand what you're saying now. you're saying that since you have 98 spec 5 lug the hub is different, and they had a hard time getting your 5 lug wheels on (maybe because they arent 98 spec?). so what your asking is that if theres a difference between the 98 & pre 98 spec in terms of what size hubcentric ring to use?
yes ! they use 01 itr wheel (gun metal)
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