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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 01:00 AM
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Default Did some testing with the air box lid off: data inside

After reading alot of posts about heatsoak with air box lid off, i did some testing today with my datalogger. I gathered a bunch of data so you can be the judge about this mod. Skip to the cliffnote if you are too lazy to read.

<FONT SIZE="4">CAR: 2000 s2000 ap1</FONT>

Car is in excellent condition, compression and leakdown is well within spec, no MIL/CEL.

<FONT SIZE="4">Drivetrain Modifciation: Spoon Snorkel, Gutted airbox, K&N filter</FONT>


The Test: I seperated the test into two parts, first is local and the second part is freeway, the outside temp. in my town is 72F(according to Yahoo Weather), i have to do the testing at night since the traffic around here sucks major ***** during daytime. The car is well warmed up and cool down time is provided between runs. <u>All unit in F.</u>


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<FONT SIZE="4">Test 1: Local Driving(0-40mph in light traffic)</FONT>

<u>With Lid ON</u>

Air Temp: 131-149
Coolant Temp: 188-203

<u>Special note</u>: I did a run with redline/vtec until 40mph result:

Air Temp: 129-145
Coolant Temp: 194-203


<u>With Lid OFF</u>

Air Temp: 143-150
Coolant Temp: 192-213

<u>Special note</u>: Idle at 149F after first minute of stoppage.

<FONT SIZE="4">Test 2: Freeway/Highway Driving(65-80mph with light traffic)</FONT>


<u>With Lid ON</u>

Air Temp: 111-140
Coolant Temp: 183-194

<u>Special note</u>: Achieved 111F at 80mph


<u>With Lid OFF</u>

Air Temp: 122-149
Coolant Temp: 184-206

<u>Special note</u>: Achieved 122F at 80mph

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The Verdict</FONT>


The testing shows lower air temperture is acheived consistently and repeatedly with the air box lid on, however i make no claims about throttle response since i do not have a dyno or G-tech meter handy.

CLIFFNOTE: Lid on = cooler :LOL:

If you guys want to do some testing with CAI, Vented hood, different filter, air box mod, we can do it in local meet.

Comment, opinion is always welcome
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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 01:39 AM
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As expected. You should note whether or not you have a vented hood, I'm positive it makes a difference in underhood temp, at least when you're moving.
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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 10:39 PM
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Expected but the difference seems small. I doubt anyone can feel the performance difference.
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Old Jul 16, 2006 | 12:54 AM
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10 degree seems small to you?

everyone talking about heatsoak and no one did anything to test it, that's why i did it in the first place.
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Old Jul 16, 2006 | 06:10 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FR-MOB: Projekt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As expected. You should note whether or not you have a vented hood, I'm positive it makes a difference in underhood temp, at least when you're moving.</TD></TR></TABLE>

a vented hood would help both when stopped and moving..... we all know heat rises..
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Old Jul 16, 2006 | 06:12 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by shftat9k &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Expected but the difference seems small. I doubt anyone can feel the performance difference.</TD></TR></TABLE>

you'll notice a 5rwhp notice...... how do i know?? because i experienced it on the dyno.... on my final 3 runs back in the days.... i ran 210rwhp... then did another run right after and it came down to 205rwhp.... we waited about 10 minutes, let things cool down a little and ran again and it went up to 208rwhp...

heatsoak is devistating on our engines....
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Old Jul 16, 2006 | 11:45 AM
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thanks for the test....it isnt all that great but if ur looking on acomplishing that 5whp...i guess keep the engine as cold as possible...
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Old Jul 17, 2006 | 06:15 AM
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good write up
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Old Jul 17, 2006 | 06:24 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM knowledge &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">good write up </TD></TR></TABLE>

I agree, good info, however, Can I just point out that engine sounds soooo much cooler when you hit VTEC with the airbox cover off......
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Old Jul 17, 2006 | 03:28 PM
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I havent really done any testing with my DIY intake mod nor do I think it gives any hp gains at all, mainly just a more aggressive sound...I got a complete stock air box from a friend that sold his and I cut out the bottom of the box(and the divider piece) and left the lid on and the side walls of the box.

Think I have any loss with just doing that?

edit: ap1mark on my friend's S/N
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