Since most of the bilstein sport damper users are in here...are there two spring perch locations on the damper or not? The reason I ask is that i have an prelude SH, which has a slightly longer oe spring than the base model because the spring perch is slightly lower on our struts, stock.

 

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Before you get yelled at. I'm going to go with my common sense... The answer would be no. If there were two different spring perches you would need 2 different sized springs.... with the lower moist coil being 2 different sized. Smaller for the top perch and larger for the bottom perch, otherwise you would be limited to the top perch at all times. Hope that helps-Eric

 

err...adjustable perch..apparently so from this post.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothre...09804

Does this mean you can use longer springs?

 

I just sold mine, but I only had one spring perch setting from the factory.

 

damn, i wouldv bought them. ive yet to meet someone using the bilsteins on their prelude, everyone follows the crowd and goes with koni or tein aroud here.

 

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I switched from Bilstein Sport to Koni. Which one is better depends on what springs you're using, what the roads are like where you live, how you drive (street or track). If you're using these with OEM springs, I'd consider getting the HD model instead since they're designed for OEM springs (www.eshocks.com is the place to get Bilsteins by the way). The sports have shortened shock shafts (like the Neuspeed Koni) which you won't need and which may be a little bit of a pain in the *** b/c you'll need to compress the springs more to install.

Are you trying to make the car sit a little lower? If you are, the Konis will work better - you can set the OEM springs on the lower perch to get a very mild drop.

Also keep in mind that the Bilsteins are under higher pressure than the Konis - your car will sit slightly higher than stock when you install the Bilsteins. I think the Bilstein sports would be great with HR or Neuspeed Race springs for example since they have the shortened shafts and also add a slight lift to compensate 1 or 2 tenths of an inch for the huge 2"+ drop.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HxClude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I switched from Bilstein Sport to Koni. Which one is better depends on what springs you're using, what the roads are like where you live, how you drive (street or track). If you're using these with OEM springs, I'd consider getting the HD model instead since they're designed for OEM springs (www.eshocks.com is the place to get Bilsteins by the way). The sports have shortened shock shafts (like the Neuspeed Koni) which you won't need and which may be a little bit of a pain in the *** b/c you'll need to compress the springs more to install.

Are you trying to make the car sit a little lower? If you are, the Konis will work better - you can set the OEM springs on the lower perch to get a very mild drop.

Also keep in mind that the Bilsteins are under higher pressure than the Konis - your car will sit slightly higher than stock when you install the Bilsteins. I think the Bilstein sports would be great with HR or Neuspeed Race springs for example since they have the shortened shafts and also add a slight lift to compensate 1 or 2 tenths of an inch for the huge 2"+ drop.</TD></TR></TABLE>

How much did you sell them for?

This will be a street driven, while i improve on the track. Uncertain whether to just get hr sport springs (or another equivalent) for now or just go with gc from the get go. I'd stick with the oem springs for now, but since i have an sh i can't. Going for the most minimal drop. Any advice on the springs or gc?

 

I sold them for ~$250 on Ebay about 3 weeks ago. I posted them for sale here first and no one wanted them!

too bad you're not closer to MD - I have a 28k mile base suspension I'd sell cheap and you could use the OEM springs. I also have a set of Progress sport springs (about the same drop as HR sport) that will be for sale in a few weeks - great street springs.

Honestly though, if you can afford it, I'd skip the springs and go Ground Control. I'm coming up on my 4th suspension setup and have finally learned my lesson - go GC! The ride height adjustablity is always nice and you can get higher/different spring rates when/if you get more seriuous about racing for a reasonable price.

If you want a streetable rate that will still let you do well at the track on weekends, try ~425 lbs front and rear. You can order custom rates directly from GC or do what I did - get them from Redshiftmotorsports.com and save yourself the $20-$25 shipping fee from GC

I did just remember something too, the guys at GC told me awhile back that the Bilstein sports don't take spring rates as high as the Konis can w/out being revalved. I think they recommended staying closer to 350lbs (vs. 450lb max for Konis). You can always give Bilstein a call and check.

 

I wish i had decided to purchase new shocks 3 weeks back .

I'll keep that in mind about gc vs. springs. everyone else i've received input from in the suspension and roadrace forums (including george knighton) has said that the bilsteins are built more solidly and can handle higher rates (~200lb+) more than the koni's before revalving is required. that's part of my motivation. i do like that's monotube vs the koni yellow's also.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vinuneuro &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I wish i had decided to purchase new shocks 3 weeks back .

I'll keep that in mind about gc vs. springs. everyone else i've received input from in the suspension and roadrace forums (including george knighton) has said that the bilsteins are built more solidly and can handle higher rates (~200lb+) more than the koni's before revalving is required. that's part of my motivation. i do like that's monotube vs the koni yellow's also. </TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah I was surprised to hear about the lower spring rate limit too but keep in mind that it's just a matter of what Bilstein decides to market to cover the most applications. They can easily set up those shocks to handle 1000lb springs and I was very impressed with Bilstein build quality (maybe a little better than Koni even). If you could find a set used and then send them to be revalved, that would be ideal.

 

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love my HD's. they're not sports so I can't help answer your question or anything.