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Old Apr 18, 2002 | 07:44 PM
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Default Why don't they make camber kits in Japan?

I noticed that there is no such thing as a JDM camber kit.

One mechanic told me that camber kits are bad for dialing in more negative camber. He said that it would remove the play in the drive shaft and if you bottom the suspension it can damage the tranny and drive shaft. Bascially the drive shaft will run out of room to move and bind into the hub and tranny. He also mentioned that it adds load to the bearing and will prematurely wear them out.

Is this true?

He said if you want more camber, lower the car and put in stiffer spring to prevent bottoming.

I wanted to get an adjustable front upper control arm, but now I think it might be a bad idea.

Please share your views.

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Old Apr 18, 2002 | 07:46 PM
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They do make them...

A Sports, Vision, etc...
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Old Apr 18, 2002 | 07:50 PM
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They do? Link please.

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Old Apr 18, 2002 | 07:51 PM
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Old Apr 18, 2002 | 07:54 PM
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Then what about the drive shaft length and bearing issues? Or is that all misinformation?

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Old Apr 18, 2002 | 08:03 PM
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I've never heard of this being an issue, both for race cars and street cars.

You should be fine.
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Old Apr 18, 2002 | 08:09 PM
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becuase japanese use camber for race only(to put negative camber). they dont use a camber kit to correct the negative camber.

I noticed that there is no such thing as a JDM camber kit.

One mechanic told me that camber kits are bad for dialing in more negative camber. He said that it would remove the play in the drive shaft and if you bottom the suspension it can damage the tranny and drive shaft. Bascially the drive shaft will run out of room to move and bind into the hub and tranny. He also mentioned that it adds load to the bearing and will prematurely wear them out.

Is this true?

He said if you want more camber, lower the car and put in stiffer spring to prevent bottoming. *bottoming got nothing to do with stiffer spring, if u lower too much on a long stroke shock, it still bottom out. one possible solution is to get a height adjustable pillow mount.

I wanted to get an adjustable front upper control arm, but now I think it might be a bad idea.

Please share your views.

Thanks,
CB
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Old Apr 18, 2002 | 08:12 PM
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becuase japanese use camber for race only(to put negative camber). they dont use a camber kit to correct the negative camber.
That's what I am trying to do. Gain more static negative camber.

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Old Apr 18, 2002 | 08:38 PM
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There's nothing wrong with using a camber kit to dial in more negative camber. I'm running kits front and back with no problems. I think you'd only run into some issures if you run too much negative camber.

Lowering the car would increase negative camber too but it will be uneven all around. As for springs, if you're on stock suspension, I doubt you'll bottom out unless you nail a speedbump at like 25+ mph or a huge pothole.


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Old Apr 18, 2002 | 08:38 PM
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then japanese camber kit is good.(and also never hear those problems)
but one thing u have to know. although, camber kit can increase your cornering speed, but it also reduce your brake power when u negative too much(less contact area of the tire).
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Old Apr 18, 2002 | 08:59 PM
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It still interesting that Spoon, Toda, Jun, Mugen, and many others don't make a camber kit. I wonder why?

Am I wrong about this?

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Old Apr 18, 2002 | 09:06 PM
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it really depends on which shop/race car you're looking at

while most of the listed companies don't make their own camber kits, they do adjust camber for track purposes. often, they use other camber kits such as ASports.
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Old Apr 19, 2002 | 10:42 AM
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of course they do!!! J's racing makes them for sure.....i will have mine next month
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Old Apr 19, 2002 | 11:18 AM
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Default Re: Why don't they make camber kits in Japan? (Spikey)

I've never heard of this being an issue, both for race cars and street cars.

You should be fine.
If you try to correct negative camber, then you can have axle problems if you
correct too much. On my car I would correct about 1-1.5 degrees and
everytime I press the gas down the inboard joints would separate and break.
You can only stretch the axle out so far.
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