How do you get a/c for a b series swap in a crx? what compressor and lines will i need? is it even possible? please post some pics if possible. i wanna see it sitting under the hood.

 

You could use the stock crx a/c system and fab up a bracket for the a/c compressor or just get a pre-made piece from hasport...http://hasport.com/catalog/pro...fb0ee

 

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I have the premade piece from hasport. It looks really nice and seems to work well for what it does Too bad when I swapped engines I found out the AC pump was seized. It is however, a little pricey.

 

anyone in so cal selling a working a/c system? by the way thx everyone for the info

 

i got a workin compressor for a crx si and a b18b1
i will sell u the D16A6 for 50plus shipin and the B18b1 for 50 plus shippin guess shippin is about 15 or some **** will can sell u all the mountin brackets and bolts for it to. just let me know

 

Actually, setting up the A/C and mounting the compressor is the easy part. Getting a good fan setup is the hard part. There just isn't alot of room between the exhaust and the radiator for even a thin fan. For the most part, consider A/C in a B-swap to be funtional only at speed.

 

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^^^^so true..........serious overheating issues while at idle and only works while moving.......so much so that I gave up and abandoned the A/C system.

 

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I'll second that. Currently, I have my A/C system mounted and hooked up (not running yet - no gas) with my b18a1 in my 90 civic. To do it right, you need to run the two fans with the full size radiator (at least, to attempt to avoid the mentioned overheating problems). That second fan sits right in front of your exhaust manifold, and there is VERY little clearance between the fan motor housing and the exhaust. I have a fabbed heatshield shoehorned between them, but I still worry about that fan's housing melting. You also may have to figure out some way of tying back the a/c plumbing away from the exhaust pipe. I had that issue as well.

btw, I am using the hasport a/c mount.

Here's pictures in my civic. this first one shows the overall placement. yes it does fit in there, but it is VERY close.


this second picture shows the clearance the a/c pulley has against the side of the fender well. none. in the picture, it looks like it is rubbing, but it is not. It is just so close I can't get a good picture. you can't fit a finger through there.


this third picture shows the condensor fan's housing in proximity to my ghetto fabulous exhaust heatshield. There is VERY little space. again, you'd be hard pressed to jam your pinky finger through there. So far, the plastic is not melting, and the fan still runs.


this fourth picture shows again, the a/c unit, not as zoomed in.


hope that gives you an idea. good luck.

 

With the stock B16 exhaust manifold,
You can use both stock fans if you remove
a small portain of the drivers side shroud as pictured here:


I have done this with both the Sanden and Matsushita style compressors..
Kind of a pain to assemble,but it can be done..
But,If you have a header,all bets are off.

 

does the hasport bracket support both the sanden and the matsushita compressors?

and, has anyone tried replacing the ac fan with a slim fan placed in front of the radiator?

 

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and, has anyone tried replacing the ac fan with a slim fan placed in front of the radiator?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes.



Wes

 

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Wes</TD></TR></TABLE>

replacing it with a slim fan would have more room correct? between the compressor and fan/radiator

im planning to do a a1 swap and was getting some facts together before i start the swap..thanks in advance

 

haha Wes to the rescue
Im actually going with a 1/2 size del sol daul core radiator gonna place 2 slim fans pushing on the front of the condensor probably with the same custom line as Wes' if he makes me one wanna make for me wes ?


Modified by BoostedEF at 8:14 PM 7/3/2006

 

kcjohnnyboy;

The fan shown in my photo is a "slim fan" from Spal. If you are running headers, even it will not fit between the radiator and headers!

As said in one of the prior posts, if you are running a factory header, then you have a chance at fitting a fan there.

Wes

 

I second the slim fan on the condensor coil idea. It works pretty well.

I had my ac reinstalled a few years ago, and it worked great for a few weeks. Problem ended up being the rebent lines, and a bent ac condensor.

Future plans call for a new condensor, custom bent lines by an ac shop, and a new slim fan on the front of the condensor.

Hey Wes v, is that an oil cooler on the lower left of your car?
If so, what kind of effects did it have on overall engine temp?

edit:Yes, the hasport adapter works with both style ac compressors. Money well spent in the long run. I do think HCP may make an adaptor as well though???

 

You can fit your stock fan in front of your radiator, actually. That's what I did for my a/c setup..

 

crux131; Ya that's an oil cooler. The project isn't done yet so I can't say how it will all work out.

For all those that care, I started a web write-up covering the AC re-install and also the installation of a remote oil cooler.

Here is the link, but keep in mind that it's not done yet. There is a lot to be added in regards to the oil cooler.

http://www.performanceforum.co....html

If you want any particular info added to the page, please IM me. (not that I'll necessarily do it)

Wes

 

Awesome page. the ac install pics with lines and all will be really helpfull.
Everything you adressed in regards to the ac lines, were most of the problems that hurt my system. I never got around to trying to fix them until recently though.


Thanks for the awesome write up.

 

thanks Wes.. i think i'm going to go with a slim fan in the front so i won't have to worry about cramming a fan in there between the compressor and radiator... but for the header im plannin on using a gsr exhaust manifold...will it work?

 

Ive Used The Stock Compressor From A B18 And Just Hooked It Up To The D Series A/C Lines Before... It Worked Fine... But That Was On An EG So An Ef Might Be Different...

 

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Actually, I have never had any engine overheating problems with just one fan. And I would think that if you did, it is not the fan that is at fault. After all, it is MUCH easier to keep an engine cool than it is to keep the condensor at a proper operating temperature. I just notice that, if I am sitting in traffic or at a light, the vent temperature starts to rise.

 

kcjohnnyboy;

I can't say what will work on your car! Once you start swapping stuff around, each car is presented with different problems. I'm not trying to be evasive, but it varies from car to car.

What can help is to do a web search on "Spal radiator fans" and you can find a site that gives all the dimensions of their fan units. (I don't remember the address, but it was easy to find) Armed with the dimensions, just figure out what will fit.

<U>Prices on the Spal fans vary a lot!! </U>I searched and the best price I found was from A1 Electric (in the Long Beach area of Calif as I recall).

As for needing two fans, I agree with StorminMatt. I've never had any problem with running just one fan. The reason I added the pusher fan on the drivers side is to help with cooling the AC condensor. Keep in mind that in a stock configuration, that fan only comes on when the AC is turned on. I'm going to wire it up to come on with the main fan.

Wes

 

thanks Wes V for the info... i will surely keep that in mind....

 

so you are running a new civic a/c compressor? how did you get the hosings to fit the car?

 

where did you get all your a/c set up? that looks like some after market stuff