opinions on h22 throttle body spacers
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n0 n0b0d7 s3e5 4ny g0od g41n5 w1th them
why?
because they are worthless, the purpose of a throttle body spacer is to increase plenum volume and the h22 plenum is already adequately suited to the motor....
why?
because they are worthless, the purpose of a throttle body spacer is to increase plenum volume and the h22 plenum is already adequately suited to the motor....
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think of it this way. if something THAT simple could make worthwhile gains on an otherwise stock motor, don't you think HONDA, with all their billions of dollars put into research and development, this being the same company that invented vtec, don't you think they would have stumbled onto the idea of a throttle body spacer? save your money and put it towards general preventive maintenance instead.
not trying to be a douchebag, i was just trying to make a point.
not trying to be a douchebag, i was just trying to make a point.
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Re: opinions on h22 throttle body spacers (darockstar)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by darockstar »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">any1 see any good gains with 1??</TD></TR></TABLE>
Only the company trying to sell you the POS.
Only the company trying to sell you the POS.
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Re: (phateless)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by phateless »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">being the same company that invented vtec</TD></TR></TABLE>
I think the concept of variable valve timing was around before Honda got to messing with it.
I think the concept of variable valve timing was around before Honda got to messing with it.
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Re: (phateless)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by phateless »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah you're right, didn't bmw have the 325e or whatever the hell that thing was?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm not sure exactly who did what first, but I've heard that BMW was amongst the first to experiment with it.
I'm not sure exactly who did what first, but I've heard that BMW was amongst the first to experiment with it.
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Re: (Rosko)
VTEC was first. VANOS was BMW's version of it. Toyota has VVTI.
"VTEC (standing for Variable valve Timing and lift Electronic Control) is a system developed by Honda to improve the combustion efficiency of its internal combustion engines throughout the RPM range. This was the first system of its kind and eventually led to different types of variable valve timing and lift control systems that were later designed by other manufacturers (VVT-i from Toyota, VANOS from BMW, and so on). It was invented by Honda's chief engine designer Kenichi Nagahiro"
If you like to hear a whistling noise when you punch the throttle, buy it. If you want HP gains, no.
TBS's =
"VTEC (standing for Variable valve Timing and lift Electronic Control) is a system developed by Honda to improve the combustion efficiency of its internal combustion engines throughout the RPM range. This was the first system of its kind and eventually led to different types of variable valve timing and lift control systems that were later designed by other manufacturers (VVT-i from Toyota, VANOS from BMW, and so on). It was invented by Honda's chief engine designer Kenichi Nagahiro"
If you like to hear a whistling noise when you punch the throttle, buy it. If you want HP gains, no.
TBS's =
other wise $ is best spent elsewhere
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Re: (mgags7)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mgags7 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">n0 n0b0d7 s3e5 4ny g0od g41n5 w1th them
why?
because they are worthless, the purpose of a throttle body spacer is to increase plenum volume and the h22 plenum is already adequately suited to the motor....</TD></TR></TABLE>
that and they are a rip off from carb days where adding a carb spacer would give better fuel atomization.. but yeah we don't have a carb only a TB with the fuel injectors like a foot later.
biggest waste of time and money and materials
why?
because they are worthless, the purpose of a throttle body spacer is to increase plenum volume and the h22 plenum is already adequately suited to the motor....</TD></TR></TABLE>
that and they are a rip off from carb days where adding a carb spacer would give better fuel atomization.. but yeah we don't have a carb only a TB with the fuel injectors like a foot later.
biggest waste of time and money and materials
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Re: (prelittlelude)
If someone made a small 1/4" plastic spacer/gasket that would keep the heat off the throttle body, that could help cut heat transfer, only if the coolant lines are looped.
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Re: (Honda318dx)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Honda318dx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If someone made a small 1/4" plastic spacer/gasket that would keep the heat off the throttle body, that could help cut heat transfer, only if the coolant lines are looped. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Ahahah!, I told Hondata about that one time and they said "No that won't do anything". I think it would....
Ahahah!, I told Hondata about that one time and they said "No that won't do anything". I think it would....
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Re: (Honda318dx)
just unhook the cooland lines from the tb. and run a intake mani heatsheild gasket. I live in MA and it gets belowe freezing all the time and my TB has never gotten iced shut nor have i had a problem with the IAC.
additionally the sensors on the TB arn't that heat sensitive, further isolating them i don't think would provide any more benifit. or am i missing something here?
additionally the sensors on the TB arn't that heat sensitive, further isolating them i don't think would provide any more benifit. or am i missing something here?
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Re: (OaksRacing)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by OaksRacing »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">BDL makes a nice throttle body spacer. We used it for the extra vacuum ports.</TD></TR></TABLE>
So that's how you made over 700whp! I knew it!
So that's how you made over 700whp! I knew it!
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Re: (mgags7)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by john d »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what does vtec do and where can i buy some? </TD></TR></TABLE>
your local autozone will have some vtec fluid
100hp gain
your local autozone will have some vtec fluid
100hp gain
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Re: (92hondalude)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92hondalude »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
your local autozone will have some vtec fluid
100hp gain </TD></TR></TABLE>
I've been looking for that stuff everywhere, and what do you know, it's at my local Auto Zone. ****, I guess the one by my house ran out, cause I couldn't find it.
your local autozone will have some vtec fluid
100hp gain
</TD></TR></TABLE>I've been looking for that stuff everywhere, and what do you know, it's at my local Auto Zone. ****, I guess the one by my house ran out, cause I couldn't find it.
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Re: (doug810)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SanSational »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">VTEC was first. VANOS was BMW's version of it. Toyota has VVTI.
"VTEC (standing for Variable valve Timing and lift Electronic Control) is a system developed by Honda to improve the combustion efficiency of its internal combustion engines throughout the RPM range. This was the first system of its kind and eventually led to different types of variable valve timing and lift control systems that were later designed by other manufacturers (VVT-i from Toyota, VANOS from BMW, and so on). It was invented by Honda's chief engine designer Kenichi Nagahiro"
If you like to hear a whistling noise when you punch the throttle, buy it. If you want HP gains, no.
TBS's = </TD></TR></TABLE>
Umm no it wasn't. While it they were the first to sucessfully implement and be sucessful, the technology and idea of varible valve timing had already existed.
"VTEC (standing for Variable valve Timing and lift Electronic Control) is a system developed by Honda to improve the combustion efficiency of its internal combustion engines throughout the RPM range. This was the first system of its kind and eventually led to different types of variable valve timing and lift control systems that were later designed by other manufacturers (VVT-i from Toyota, VANOS from BMW, and so on). It was invented by Honda's chief engine designer Kenichi Nagahiro"
If you like to hear a whistling noise when you punch the throttle, buy it. If you want HP gains, no.
TBS's = </TD></TR></TABLE>
Umm no it wasn't. While it they were the first to sucessfully implement and be sucessful, the technology and idea of varible valve timing had already existed.
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Re: (94Vtecluder)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94Vtecluder »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Umm no it wasn't. While it they were the first to sucessfully implement and be sucessful, the technology and idea of varible valve timing had already existed.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, i heard that edelbrock, yes edelbrock, was working on this concept, but he was way ahead of his time.
Umm no it wasn't. While it they were the first to sucessfully implement and be sucessful, the technology and idea of varible valve timing had already existed.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, i heard that edelbrock, yes edelbrock, was working on this concept, but he was way ahead of his time.