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Old Jun 30, 2006 | 05:16 PM
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ok it seems search isnt showing that one thread on w/m injection. i just want to know more about it and hondas. why dont honda people use it? im going to have a d16 with over 400whp and my intercooler isnt the biggest and id also like to run 93 octane. is w/m injection for me? what are some good kits? anyone have pics of them installed?
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Old Jun 30, 2006 | 05:26 PM
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is this mr. freeze kit any good? seems to be pretty cheap... but how does it work without pumps, sensors, etc..??

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...ZWDVW
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Old Jun 30, 2006 | 08:51 PM
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Old Jun 30, 2006 | 09:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mike93boost &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is this mr. freeze kit any good? seems to be pretty cheap... but how does it work without pumps, sensors, etc..??

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...ZWDVW</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you prefer to shoot windshield washer cleaner in your engine go for it, id rather buy a complete kit for the peace of mind
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Old Jun 30, 2006 | 10:43 PM
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go to snowperformance.com they sell the W/M injection. they have 2 different kits you can get. one that just comes on and off and one that is for boosted applications. that deliver W/M dependent on boost. how ever you set it. just take a look they make great stuff.
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Old Jun 30, 2006 | 11:26 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 96 GSR-T &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

If you prefer to shoot windshield washer cleaner in your engine go for it, id rather buy a complete kit for the peace of mind </TD></TR></TABLE>

Whats wrong with windshield washer formula? typically its a mixture of methanol and water, Oh and don't forget the coloring.

I'll be ordering my kit this comming week. For me it was a toss up between the Alkycontrol unit and Devils own. I decided to go with the Devils own since i'll only be doing a 50/50 mix and not straight up alky.

i'll post up some more info once i install and tune with the kit.
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Old Jul 1, 2006 | 12:12 AM
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Guy out here in kissimmee has a dart 5.0 with twin gt25r's Uses the washer fluid mix. Car is sick fast. 550whp on low boost and something around 800 at15psi(if I remember correctly). He said he ran 8.80's on it. I was thinking about it on my sohc that I will be upper the boost to bout 300whp when I ditch my 15g.
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Old Jul 1, 2006 | 12:39 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bigbadboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">go to snowperformance.com </TD></TR></TABLE>you mean snowperformance.net?? right
i had the stage 1 kit in my CRX and loved it personally wouldn't turbo without it again
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Old Jul 1, 2006 | 01:22 AM
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shameless plug I have a water/alky kit for sale https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1525333
It got rid of the heatsoak in my jrsc. I never got a chance to run methanol. I'm getting out of the car scene.
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Old Jul 1, 2006 | 08:07 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mike93boost &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok it seems search isnt showing that one thread on w/m injection. i just want to know more about it and hondas. why dont honda people use it? im going to have a d16 with over 400whp and my intercooler isnt the biggest and id also like to run 93 octane. is w/m injection for me? what are some good kits? anyone have pics of them installed?</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Jul 1, 2006 | 08:41 AM
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I just ordered a Water/Alk kit from coolingmist.com, comes with the 150psi pump and dual nossles for 500+hp, it was $300.... not a bad deal, cant wait to boost 20+psi on the street with a 67mm turbo
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Old Jul 1, 2006 | 12:02 PM
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lots of info here...
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Old Jul 1, 2006 | 12:17 PM
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Not a honda site but lots of info... http://forums.nasioc.com/forum...14948
**Like I said DOESN'T HAVE HONDAS ON IT** But lots of info and links to different companies.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 80884 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Not a honda site but lots of info... http://forums.nasioc.com/forum...14948
**Like I said DOESN'T HAVE HONDAS ON IT** But lots of info and links to different companies. </TD></TR></TABLE>

good link!

why dont honda people use it very often?
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Old Jul 1, 2006 | 12:47 PM
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I'm not sure. They don't alow it in sportsman classes? Other than that I honestly don't know.

Thanks.
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Old Jul 1, 2006 | 01:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mike93boost &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">good link!

why dont honda people use it very often?</TD></TR></TABLE>looks like me badgering you to look into water/alky/meth kits helped

running high octane fuel (100+) can get expensive FAST

I plan on running a coolingmist kit
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Old Jul 1, 2006 | 02:02 PM
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is ithe water/meth injected the whole time the car is running? How does it engage exactly?

Can it be controlled by engine management (honata K-Pro) to spray at a certain rpm or boost?
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Old Jul 1, 2006 | 02:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AbitAvenger &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">looks like me badgering you to look into water/alky/meth kits helped

running high octane fuel (100+) can get expensive FAST

I plan on running a coolingmist kit </TD></TR></TABLE>

well maybe.. if no one with a honda uses it then something must not be good about it. still researching before i buy a kit or not.
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Old Jul 1, 2006 | 02:04 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boostedK20a2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is ithe water/meth injected the whole time the car is running? How does it engage exactly?

Can it be controlled by engine management (honata K-Pro) to spray at a certain rpm or boost?</TD></TR></TABLE>

see..i want to know everything about it concerning boosted hondas..just like you. how does it work EXACTLY, how is it installed, EVERYTHING. found a lot of info but it didnt really get into details.
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Old Jul 1, 2006 | 02:34 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mike93boost &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">see..i want to know everything about it concerning boosted hondas..just like you. how does it work EXACTLY, how is it installed, EVERYTHING. found a lot of info but it didnt really get into details.</TD></TR></TABLE>http://www.coolingmist.com/instructions.aspx

alot of people run it with a boost activated switch ie. over 5lbs it will activate
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Old Jul 1, 2006 | 02:57 PM
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so what if im running more than 25psi?

so its best to have it start injecting at 5psi on a boosted honda?

what kit did you get?
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Old Jul 1, 2006 | 02:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mike93boost &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so what if im running more than 25psi?

so its best to have it start injecting at 5psi on a boosted honda?

what kit did you get?</TD></TR></TABLE>5 psi was just an example, i am not sure what the "best" is

if your running more then 25 psi them im sure coolingmist has a higer pressure solenoid somewhere on their website

I plan on getting the single stage 150psi kit, i am running a stock d on 10lbs and plan to only use water injection
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Old Jul 1, 2006 | 03:02 PM
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this is what this thread is for.. this is all new to me. i need to know every little detail and ever setting, etc. dont want to go into this blind.

what if youre boosting and the pump fails or something or you run out of mix.. youre engine blow detonate and blow?
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Old Jul 1, 2006 | 03:32 PM
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talk to tonythetiger, or 9secteg they both run injection and SWEAR by it. i will be running it on my stock sleeved GSR gt3076...the whole basis of meth injection is that its NOT a power increase on its own like NOS for example..it brings your egt temps down and it allows you to run higher amounts of boost on a lower octane because it is a detonation preventor. so beeing that its a detonation preventor...which as we all know is what makes motors go boom on psi usually(if the tuning/assembly isn't the first problem)...yes it can be activated on an rpm level, or psi level with hondata...i would recomend getting direct port nozels so that you get a nice even spray and just keep in mind that the MOST IMPORTANT THING ON A BOOSTED MOTOR IS A PROPER TUNE!!! but i think with the right kit, you can put down reliable and safe DAILY DRIVEN power. if anything its for piece of mind...at the VERY LEAST it makes running high boost on low octane safer for your motor by preventing detonation...hope this helps! but for more info PM TONY THE TIGER, or 9SECTEG who both have amazing cars with proven results...
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Old Jul 1, 2006 | 03:39 PM
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I just bought the stg1 coolingmist kit this morning, has the 150psi pump and I got the dual nossle setup and ordered a 1 gallon tank and low level indicator, I am going to engage mine around 12-13 psi and plan to run 22ish psi on the street.
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