I have not done much research on this but - as a general view i want to know which is better. a 2000 Type R or a 2000 Nissan 200sx S14 S2 - round the same price.

 

do you mean 240sx? eaither way... ITR is way better! and i'm not just saying that because i'm a "honda-guy". it has better 1/4 mile times and will easily beat it around a track. although you will have to worry about theft a little more than a nissan 200/240sx...

 

What are you looking for? A great car factory tuned for the track, with Honda reliability? Or a platform for dooriiiftooo! that's also somewhat reliable?

 

A 240sx takes some work where the ITR will do awesome stock.

 

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ITR&gt;240sx

 

two complete opposites, before you narrow your search between a 200/240 and itr, i think you need to decide what your intentions for the car are, it sounds like this may be your first car and your friends told you those were the best cars, so your going on different forums getting different opinions, which is not bad but i think your scale is set a liitle high looking at the R. maybe you shoould look at civics or preludes instead, if you get really into hondas and you want to start road racing or autocrossing then start thinking about the R. in any case put your flame suit on.

 

S14 Silvia &gt; DC2 ITR

 

I see ur in aussie land, get the car which has the cheaper insurance.

besides they both come with flux capacitors

 

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yeh hes from australia fellas

the 200 will be more expensive in terms of insurance... and will feel like a sloppier, heavier car stock for stock

but might do slightly better in a straight line

like it was said above, you woul need to put bucks into a 200 to make it handle and feel like a stock DC2R

but then the equivalent money spent on a 200 would see it being a bullet in a straight line

 

200sx is better.

Thats why everyone here risks theft, haters, high insurance and burned oil everyday.

 

i dont think its fair to compare these two cars, i know here in Ireland 2nd hand honda prices are starting to slide because there is a large number of RWD cars coming in from japan, drifting seems to be sweeping the country at the moment. in standard form the 200sx is a pretty mundane car in comparisson to an ITR, so i suppose it all depends on what you want from you're car.
my mate has an s14 set up for drift & i have to say its a savage car, in fact only this morning i was giggling like a school girl in the passenger seat as he lit it up

check out this link
http://www.putfile.com/d1decky


Modified by KISS ME LUCKY CHARMS at 2:26 PM 6/29/2006

 

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Stock for stock an ITR is way better than an S14 in just about every area. Brakes better, handles better and is a tad faster in a straight line.

On the other hand the SR20DET unit is very easy and cheap to get more power from. With stock turbo you get 280-300whp for very little money.

If you want a track car go for ITR. If you want a drag car go S14 IMO. You have to put a good amount of money into a S14 to get it as fast as an ITR on a track.

 

ITR. All the above, plus, its much sexier IMO.

 

Lucky Charms, not just the country, but i think drifting is taking over the world LOL... it's the new "trend"

anyway, the ITR will get to the end of any track faster then a 240sx stock for stock, period.

 

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anyway, the ITR will get to the end of any track faster then a 240sx stock for stock, period.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i would'nt swap my ITR for anything, as i said in another thread recently i'll never let it go, i'm thinking about a dc5 itr as a daily driver & keep the dc2 for fun but that drifting is good craic,
i think it was nieve of the author to come onto an itr specific thread to ask this question, we've already made our decision on which was best, so i just tried to be objective and not too biased towards the ITR but obviously honda&gt;nissan

 

depends on what you want to do with the kar. For the obvious, the R is not prime choice for the drifting. But stock to stock, the R has better drivability. Vtec, high revs and lsd tranny... what more kould you want ?

 

well, if he's in australia, the 240 may actually be available with an sr20. my buddy live down under and says a lot of the cars come like they would in japan, wouldnt surprise me, if it was a silvia were comparing it to, the itr is still beter but an sr20 has a lot of potential as well.

 

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Yeah the US 240sx is called 200sx in both japan, europe and australia. It comes with the SR20DET motor as I mentioned above.

 

240sx owns the ITR. RWD owns FWD...period!!!!!!!!!

 

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Obviously some people think otherwise..

 

240sx owns the ITR. RWD owns FWD...period!!!!!!!!!


2000 Civic Ex - Sold
1999 GSR - Sold
2001 GSR -Sold
1998 Prelude SH -Sold
1995 CBR F3 - Sold
1999 R6 - Sold
2003 CBR 600RR - Sold
2004 CBR 600RR - Sold
2002 R1 - Crash/Sold
2004 R1 - Sold

does this guy even own a car? looks like he sold everything.

 

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does this guy even own a car? looks like he sold everything.
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Once you achieve that Zen moment of realization that "RWD&gt;FWD, therefore 200SX&gt;ITR", the entire conquest is complete! Sell everything and call it day.

 

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Chevy Caprice &gt; ITR

'82 Mustang 4 cylinder &gt; ITR

 

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Depends.. I like S14's but the ITR can be a better car depending on what you want.