Selling the ITR tomorrow and am trying to decide what to get. Right now it's down to S2k pretty much now, EVO or 350z later. So i figure y'all would be the best people to ask a couple questions about the s2k on the track.

1) will i need to buy a roll bar for HPDE's? Or is the stock one adequate? i've heard yes and no on this before.

and the next question is dumb, but better to ask than to be surprised

2) Having only driven FWD cars before, how is driving a RWD car different on the track, are you still accellerating/breaking/lifting at the same points? Thanks for dealing with my stupidity guys


[Modified by xjohnx, 9:28 AM 4/18/2002]

 

Hahahahahahaha!!! Get a rollbar. "Pimp" is not functional - not even on a Honduh.
Read all you can about "throttle oversteer". S2K's also have a tendency to snap oversteer because of their short wheelbase. For the most part the line will be the same. You may alter your turn-ins and braking slightly to compensate for the specific car but that would be the case for anything. Once familiar with the car you may find spots where you can do things different to maximize the potential of the car however.

 

To run with SpeedTrial you do need an aftermarket bar. There are very few companies that make roll bars for the S2000. Good uck

FATT ( BSR) did allow the use of the factory, but that might have changed.

NASA, same as BSR.

Bryan

 

There are tracks and groups that will let the S2000 run with the factory bar. That said, would I do it? No. Would I instruct in one? Hell no. If it were me, I'd put a bar in it that was OVER my head, not just over the seats. (This assumes you and your instructor aren't < 5 feet tall.)

 

stock "rollbar" is not allowed at any Carguys events, even for HPDE.....aftermarket must be used on any convertable......including the S2000.

hope that helps sway you.

 

a blower with help it go faster Jonnnny boy.

Spoon cage is only 3bills, go for it.!!!

 

3 bills as in 300? doesn't seem to be too bad of a solution actually...

 

If there's room under the top to allow for a bar tall enough to meet track requirements... (anyone remember exactly? is it 2 inches above your helmeted head? what would you guys recommend?) Remember, I could get you a schweet custom welded rollbar or cage.

~Chris, who may have no shame, but is serious.

 

Its a problem of making one tall enough, and having the top be usable still... i guess with aftermarket seats that lower the driver, and then get a rollbar that will fit under the top, you can be good to go... But thats a lot of money to mod a car just to drive around the track, but I'm sure its worth it...

 

Still costs alot less than the price of your cranium. I say go for it

 

This one looks acceptable, anyone see any faults with it?

 

[QUOTE]a blower [QUOTE]

you said blower....i likey!!

s2000 on 14lbs?? ill take one

and about the cage pics, i dont like the fact the roll hoop is not completly perpendicular to the ground......my opinion though, those mount points better be strong because they will have to take an unreal amount of stress


[Modified by Johnny Tran, 10:23 AM 4/18/2002]

 

There are more and more S2k roll bars poping up. I would highly consider getting one if you plan to track the car on a regular basis. Most clubs do allow the factory bar, but I wouldn't want to risk it. Most people's head is above it anyway with a helmet on.

The factory bar does seem to work though.

 

Only that it should be padded. I do wonder why it's "leaning" forward though. Who makes that thing?

 

WHOA!! !!!

Bryan

 

http://www.s2ki.com/forums/showthrea...ight=bitterman - some guy on the S2Ki.com board, don't know too much about him.

 

That one I think was custom made. I remeber reading a thread on s2ki.com about it. It leans forward for the roof to clear.

I would look into one that has a horizontal bar to attach harnesses to.

 

Probably the only way to keep the top useable.

 

Deals Gap rocks nads!!!!!!!!!

 

Don't play if you can't pay!

 

The bar in my Miata is straight and my top remains usable. I don't think I'd want my bar leaning over my head that way. "Mouse Trap" comes to mind...

 

Cake and eat it....

 

Will, I have a convertible, with a bar, and a usable top, that the bar doesn't lean that way. I do have my cake and can eat it too.

 

I was just thinking "mouse trap"

John, it sounds like to get the car you want you are going to have to make some compromises. I don't like going 120 mph in any car (much less a contertible) without a substantial amount of steel around me. If you get the S2000, perhaps you should take a break from the track stuff for a while until you get that Evo or new Z.

BTW, I don't think that bar would pass an SCCA Solo 1 tech.

 

doug over at http://www.nsxfiles.com had this made for his st00ky

photo courtesy of NSX Files