ok,
my friend just bought a 91 integra ls. it saposidly has cams and stage 3 racing tranny..
i have an 03 civic ex coupe with k&N warm air intake and greddy evo 2 catback.
how can i make my (03 civic coupe) pushing more HP and torque then his (integra ls)?
i want everything done the right way the first time. im not rich but i do have a little extra money every paycheck. keep the prices on this stuff reasonable. thanks chad

 

gut your interior = +20hp and free!

 

Turbo or swap.

 

i wanted to do sumthing that didnt cost much. the only swap i can find is gunna cost like $7000. 5900 for the jdm k20 and the rest for parts and labor. any other ideas?

 

they do make cams for our cars

 

will just a cam bring my hp up to like 160 ?
what else do u need when u get a cam? cam gear? i dont know much about the internals of a motor...

 

nope. a cam will NOT get you 160. piece together a turbo kit. thats what im doing.

 

honestly i would rather not do the turbo thing. i owe $14,000 on my car i really dont want to deal with the problems that come with a turbo or supercharger. i would rather have an all motor d17 that can whoop on integras.
so far a cam is the only thing u said... what else do they make? would a new ecu do anything? will it make my redline higher? i wanna be able to rev to like 7,500 rpms without hitting the limiter.. is that possible?

 

if u wanna be cheap.. nitrous kit is ur best bet... you want something more permanent then get a utrbo kit... if you go all motor.. ur gonna spend alot of money just to get it up to 160.. but hey.. the 01 civics are lighter than the integras.. so..

91 integra ls weights about 2680lbs
03 civic dx weights about 2450lbs...

200lbs lighter... lol

 

i have an ex its says on my door like 3250 lbs or sumthin. but i dont think a turbo is going to be as consistant as all motor. im not trying to be cheap. i am willing to spend like 3000. but any more then that i might as well save for the k20... lol by the way how do u pass emissions in other states with a diff motor in your car. ?

 

lol.. in my area all obd2 cars just plug into the computer and if it pasts it pasts.. we dont use the sniffer and visual here... the only time it is used is on the older cars.. but since the 01 and up civics use obd2 then u can pass.. i just passed 2 weeks ago and walked off with only paying the 29.99 emissions test fee..

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by iwantspeed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have an ex its says on my door like 3250 lbs or sumthin. but i dont think a turbo is going to be as consistant as all motor. im not trying to be cheap. i am willing to spend like 3000. but any more then that i might as well save for the k20... lol by the way how do u pass emissions in other states with a diff motor in your car. ? </TD></TR></TABLE>

You could probably pick up a K24 for that.

 

nawwzz ittttttt

 

To obtain MAYBE 190hp on a d17:

Stage 2 cams
Adjustable cam gear
VTEC Controller
Engine Management System
Pistons
Fuel Pump
Returnable Fuel system
Ignition System
Injectors

And a very good tune. For that much money to obtain maybe 200 hp, drop that money on a turbo K series, and youd be humping.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Red_EMII &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">To obtain MAYBE 190hp on a d17:

Stage 2 cams
Adjustable cam gear
VTEC Controller
Engine Management System
Pistons
Fuel Pump
Returnable Fuel system
Ignition System
Injectors

And a very good tune. For that much money to obtain maybe 200 hp, drop that money on a turbo K series, and youd be humping.</TD></TR></TABLE>

More like 160hp than 190hp. You're going to have a hell of a time to get 160hp out of a N/A D17, and I'm not so sure that what you posted would even be enough for that.

 

why wont these motors gain any HP?!?! the link i just read about the k20 motor swap said it is gunna cost me almost 9000 dollars to get this done. the shop i emailed told me they wont do it for me. they told me they only do b16 and b18, they were confused on why those motors wont work in my car... i kinda am too?? and why does this website im at say the adjustable cam gear will give your car 7 hp? that seems a bit much... sorry if this has all been talked about before. i really wanna learn more about my car then all my friends already do...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by iwantspeed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why wont these motors gain any HP?!?! the link i just read about the k20 motor swap said it is gunna cost me almost 9000 dollars to get this done. the shop i emailed told me they wont do it for me. they told me they only do b16 and b18, they were confused on why those motors wont work in my car... i kinda am too?? and why does this website im at say the adjustable cam gear will give your car 7 hp? that seems a bit much... sorry if this has all been talked about before. i really wanna learn more about my car then all my friends already do... </TD></TR></TABLE>

Cam gears won't gain you hp. Cam gears + better fuel + hours of adjustment will, but even then, at most you're looking at is around 5hp.

B-series swaps won't work well with the 7thgen, because they're simply not supported well. There's too much work involved, for the end effect.

Look at what a K24 out of a CR-V will cost you, and try and go that route, with an EP3 tranny and axles.

 

that makes alot of sence. wow.... but are there many performance parts for the crv motor? thats got 160 hp right?

 

my swap only costed me $5000 total.. and thats with a jdm motor

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by iwantspeed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that makes alot of sence. wow.... but are there many performance parts for the crv motor? thats got 160 hp right? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Swapping the head for any non-a3 K20 head, will gain you about 30whp. Then, throwing some higher compression pistons (like the ones from a K20a (RSX Type-R)), and you'll easily see 240-250hp at the wheels.

 

so buy a k24. some k20a type R pistons and a k20a type r head. what about motor mounts.. i hear people say hasport motor mounts for the k20a2 motor is that the same for the k24??

 

i think they made them adjustable or something so that the motor sits lower.

 

what tranny do i use for that? i cant find any that say 5 speed... lol i dont want an AT...

 

ep3 tranny (civic si)

 

k thanks... i was just about to invest in my motor... good thing i didnt lol. thanks for all your help... youll probly hear from me soon. the moderaters can close this thread if they want..