I built myself a high compression LSVTEC and I was going to tune a PR3 ECU with Turboedit- But ZDYNE GOLD ecus are on sale for $595 - anybody have any luck with these for a NA build- Ive got a brand new OBD0 Distributor and dont want hondata right now. I just want to get the engine broken in and running strong.

 

Turboedit=Free...ZDYNE=$595...hmmm that should be an easy decision but you could get a tuned with Neptune for that much, why not use TE since its works just as good as ZDYNE??

 

Ive heard turboedit has a lot of bugs. Is it a really good setup for OBD0? And I have to buy the chip burner, and a bunch of other crap to be able to tune with turboedit right? I like the fact that the ecu just plugs in and works.

 

yea, but if you ever change anything down the road on your car, your going to need to buy a new ecu...with TE you can change your basemap and reburn and your good to go

 

cuz with ZDyne he can tune on the fly, and not have to ever burn chips? Upload to the ecu immediately, and he's done? Also, with TE he still has to buy a burner or something, right? so its not -totally- free...

The only thing i don't like about ZDyne, is the lack of scalability (changing the rpm points of adjustment), and no datalogging... otherwise, it is WAY easier for the average joe to use, and you never have to open the ecu to make a change.... just plug in and upload from pretty much any laptop... its nice. And now with the price adjustment, its way more worth the $$. Only thing that sucks, is that those who bought the ECU at the old price have just had their ECUs devalued greatly if/when they try to resell them.

I guess it is sorta a question of "Would you pay a bit more to never have to burn a chip and remove the cover from the ecu for every change you have to make?"... guess it depends on how many changes someone might make... me, i'd pay more to not have to go through all that. to ZDyne for the new pricing though.

 

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The ZDyne Gold (which is what is being talked about here) is completely tunable... no need to "buy another ecu" or whatever...

 

Well if you are going to be uning it yourself with both options you will need some things, I'd suggest WB 02 and a EGT or something to help...I haven't heard of any bugs with TE and there has been updates and things to correct ny problems...you can have almost anyone burn you a chip for $20 or so but i fyou want to do it yourself most chip burners are about $100 or less, chips you can get like a 5-10 pack for $20, a zif sock kit i think is $20... i don't know exact prices or you can send your ecu out to get chipped, think that cost me $100 with a basemap tune...there is a guy around me that does street/dyno tunes for $100...so if thats the case $200 you have a chipped ECU and a tune compaired to $600 and you have to tune it yourself and if you never did it before it will take some time...just my opinion

 

I think the whole concept of being able to tune on the fly and not have to burn chips would be worth the money. I'm just starting to get into the tuning aspect on my car, and ZDYNE looks easy to use and has what I want. As far as no datalogging- which I have an idea what it is- but Im not exactly sure - maybe someone could fill me in. Im a NOOB with the tuning aspects of a built motor. Before I built the LSVTEC, all I had was a stock LS with all the bolt ons and a chipped ECU.

 

My original question was to see if anyone had luck with this ECU on a Naturally Aspirated Build

 

yes you can have luck with any ecu program be it zdyne,turbo edit,etc..... its about certain functions your looking for if your looking for a tune it urself type thing then go turboedit. if not and your too lazy and a bit rich to change your own chip then go zdyne.

 

My Zdyne works fine, just tuners dont like it as much as a Hondata since there is no data logging. $500 is well worth it, I paid almost $900 when I bought mine years ago!

 

Dude that car looks nice. Anybody with a NA build using ZDYNE?

 

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What are you trying to find out exactly?? of course people have used it on N/A setups... it works as well as it does on boosted cars. I've tuned several all-motor cars on ZDyne, and they all ran great, and had no problems... but you can say that about all of the ECU systems out there. But it'll come down to preference, cost, what you want to do or dont want to do (i.e. chip burning), etc...

Its based on a stock ecu, and like Hondata which also is on a stock ecu, it'll run your car just as good as it did when it was stock, but now you have adjustments

 

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You CAN tune on the fly with ECU Control \ Turboedit combo. All you need is a romulator. If you want to learn about chipping and the DIY side, check out http://www.pgmfi.org

 

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Cool, another part to buy that brings it closer to the new price of ZDyne... And then you still have to burn a chip when you're done hehe.

 

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Cool, another part to buy that brings it closer to the new price of ZDyne... And then you still have to burn a chip when you're done hehe. </TD></TR></TABLE>

TE and all the other stuff will still end up cheaper than ZDYNE

 

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Ya..... i know... but read my posts where i'm making the point that i'd pay more to not have to go through the hassle of carrying around two separate boxes/wires (romulator and chip burner), AND have to re-chip the ECU whenever i want to make a change... this is especially true if you go to the track often, and enjoy playing around with different launch rpms and stuff when you are using the ecus launch control feature.

 

I know i see your point and I agree ZDYNE will be a little less hassle but you pay for that...they both have ups and downs...I'm cheap and don't mind burning chips

 

very easy to use even if you never tuned before. and its is nice to be able to upload while the car is running. just doesnt have all the options other systems have. just get a WB.

 

Ok my view: Zdyne upgraded many of the internal dynamics of the ECU. It proccesses quicker resulting in a smoother power band and a quicker response. Did I notice? Yes. Did I notice after tuning? Yes.

The best aspect of the Zdyne is its ability to idle on the most aggressive setups. I've got one for $385 if you want it. Only downfall is it lacks datalogging. Personally, I think Zdyne should lower their prices to sell a little more.

Yes, you can tune on-the-fly provided you have a laptop.

 

I would go with a microtech LT8S that is what i am running and it is really easy to tune and you can pick one up for about $600.00 to 1,000.00 dollars it is really user friendly and you can tune fuel and ignition curves but if you are going cheap you could use a meggasquirt but there not as good!!!

 

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With all of the extensive options available for Hondas, i don't know why you'd run anything other than a Honda-ecu based system... it'll run the car WAY better than anything else... and if you need something beyond a Honda-based ECU, just go ahead and get the base-line Motec... it is darn near plug-n-play (if you're at this level, then it'll be close enough to plug-n-play for you), and it is relatively inexpensive. But for most of these cars here, a Honda-based evu wil be perfect.

Now, if you had a car that doesn't have any other option, then yea, something like a Microtech would work... but there are far easier and better methods for Hondas

 

I don't come here often, but found this little antique today and thought I'd share... and yeah, it's always fun bumping decade old threads, especially when you can contribute pics ;-)

 

LOL. I've still got my ZDYNE retuned ZC ecu in my car, running like a champ. May do the OBDO update evetually, just to allow for more flexibility.

I wonder whatever happened to them.