This autox video was from 6-18-06 at atwater castle air force. I though it looked kind of cool, so enjoy. No, i wasn't trying to drift. The car just have alot of oversteer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orAtpmD7wOk

 

Yikes!

Is that you? Why did your back end come out like that? I've never seen a front wheel drive car oversteer like that without the driver doing it intentionally or trailbraking.

What did you do to send it into a slide?

 

Not to sure what i did. Only thing i remember was using left foot braking.

 

Whoa...So how do you save something like that in a FWD?

Edit: Will you be doing this July 15 in Stockton?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by funz0rzies &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Whoa...So how do you save something like that in a FWD?

Edit: Will you be doing this July 15 in Stockton? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Once the car went into oversteer i just countersteer it.
I'll be out in Atwater again on july 9th and will definetly be there at stockton always.

Here is my last and final run. Enjoy

http://vids.myspace.com/index....68381

 

Did I hear the announcer say 5th run? :drool:

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kaiba &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Not to sure what i did. Only thing i remember was using left foot braking.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's probably why. Do many people do this in autocross? I thought it was generally used for longer, higher speed turns?

Maybe you just stabbed the brake pedal a little too much and locked the rears up just enough to break traction.

Pretty smooth drift though

That looks like a long course. Ours are usually well under a minute

 

Nice drift and save, i never liked those unpredictable slides. I have had a few myself but at allot higher mph unfortunitly ......

incase anyone wants to see me scare myself here is one !! ....sorry not trying to jack your thread BTW !!!

http://video.google.com/videop...stone

 

sounded like you lifted on coner entry...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slammed_93_hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sounded like you lifted on coner entry...</TD></TR></TABLE>
He did - hence why he nearly spun. Been there, done that. I used to think my car was biased to oversteer but found out the real problem was between the seat and the steering wheel.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Targa250R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
. I used to think my car was biased to oversteer but found out the real problem was between the seat and the steering wheel.</TD></TR></TABLE>

im still battleing trying to figure out if it was me or car settup, in car cammera's and a good driver to look at it, are helping me though

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Targa250R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">He did - hence why he nearly spun. Been there, done that. I used to think my car was biased to oversteer but found out the real problem was between the seat and the steering wheel.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Hmmm... interesting. Maybe it's not the car that biased oversteer but maybe driver. Never really though of that. I'll post my suspension set-up when i get home.

I should install a in-car camera and host it up. I really want to see some comment on my driving skill from you guys that actually roadrace.

 

hmm i never ran at atwater yet... i heard it eats tires lol

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Nino &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Did I hear the announcer say 5th run? :drool:</TD></TR></TABLE>
You heard it correctly.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EJ1 wilcox &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

That looks like a long course. Ours are usually well under a minute [/QUOTE
Mostly, at Atwater their course average 1 min.

[QUOTE=vietnameeh]hmm i never ran at atwater yet... i heard it eats tires lol</TD></TR></TABLE>
Never really notice that.

 

Quaife quick ratio rack
Ground Control coilover w/top hat
F 435lbs R 550lbs
Skunk2 front camber kit
Sage rear camber
SPC rear toe kit
Koni sport shocks (yellow)
F 1/2 turn from soft
R 1 1/4 turn from soft
ITR 25mm front sway bar, ITR 23mm rear sway bar
ASR subframe reinforcement bar
Energy Suspension master kit bushing
Trailarm OEM bushing
PasswodJDM front 3 point & rear 4 point strut bar.
Front lower U tie bar
Integra 94-01 factory front subframe tie bar
Ebay brand fender brace
Kobach frame lock
ITR style homemade trunk brace bar
Homemade c-pillar bar
No rear seats

Yokohama Advan Neova 195/55 15
Rota Group N
Fastbrakes.com 11" front brake
EG6 rear disc trailarm w/ITR, 88CRX style lca
Integra RS 4040 proportioning valve
Integra RS brake booster and master cylinder
Ebay brand brake master cylinder brace

Oh, and top of that it the stock D15Z1 with the Z6 tranny.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TwoRedEGgs &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Nice drift and save, i never liked those unpredictable slides. I have had a few myself but at allot higher mph unfortunitly ......

incase anyone wants to see me scare myself here is one !! ....sorry not trying to jack your thread BTW !!!

http://video.google.com/videop...stone</TD></TR></TABLE>

sence we are all jacking the thread (j.k)

right click and save as
http://norcalhondaracing.com/V...t.wmv

here is my FWD drift vid. like tworedeggs mine was at a higher speed during a race. T2 at thunder hill. car was set-up really loose and I tried to trail brake in.. not a good combo..

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kaiba &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Quaife quick ratio rack
Ground Control coilover w/top hat
F 435lbs R 550lbs
Skunk2 front camber kit
Sage rear camber
SPC rear toe kit
Koni sport shocks (yellow)
F 1/2 turn from soft
R 1 1/4 turn from soft
ITR 25mm front sway bar, ITR 23mm rear sway bar
ASR subframe reinforcement bar
Energy Suspension master kit bushing
Trailarm OEM bushing
PasswodJDM front 3 point & rear 4 point strut bar.
Front lower U tie bar
Integra 94-01 factory front subframe tie bar
Ebay brand fender brace
Kobach frame lock
ITR style homemade trunk brace bar
Homemade c-pillar bar
No rear seats

Yokohama Advan Neova 195/55 15
Rota Group N
Fastbrakes.com 11" front brake
EG6 rear disc trailarm w/ITR, 88CRX style lca
Integra RS 4040 proportioning valve
Integra RS brake booster and master cylinder
Ebay brand brake master cylinder brace

Oh, and top of that it the stock D15Z1 with the Z6 tranny. </TD></TR></TABLE>

what kind of camber are you running front and rear. what toe settings?
what tire pressures and what kind of pads are you running front and rear.

With that front bar I'm surprised your car came out, but it also sounds like you lifted/ braked into the turn. That will upset any car.

 

when should I come pick up my check for instruction.....

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BrianZ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

what kind of camber are you running front and rear. what toe settings?
what tire pressures and what kind of pads are you running front and rear.

With that front bar I'm surprised your car came out, but it also sounds like you lifted/ braked into the turn. That will upset any car. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Degree for the camber and toe??? I don't know. Big O tire did my alignment so i don't know. I really should scan it and post it.

As for brake pad. I'm using Hawk HPS in the front and Axis ultimate metal master in the rear.

 

unless you have some funky alignment settings, like major rear toe out. then its the nut behind the wheel.


remeber this, all braking should be done in a stright line, turn in, and gas it. seems like a simple concept but trust me it doe become easy to forget. (this is of course unless you are Left foot braking or trial braking.)

 

Okay i know what left foot braking is and how to and when to use it. But what is trail braking?

 

fyi, your car should be running in EP at the least, more likely EM or DM (those classes are based on engine displacement and i can't remember which is 2.0l and under). for th list of things that are illegal....

first, you've got a SOHC vtec-e motor in the car. all the SOHC VTEC eg's go to DSP.

the quaife rack is not legal for SP, the camber kits are not legal for SP, the toe kit probably isn't even legal for Prepared, it's definitely not legal for street prepared. all of those tie bars and braces are not legal for SP, most aren't even legal for P. the 11" fastbrakes aren't legal for SP either, as well as the teg mc and the mc brace. and street prepared does not let you remove any of the interior bits from your car.

has anybody told you that 90% of the crap on your car is making it slower, not faster? you might also want to buy a rulebook so you can figure out what class you are in with all those useless mods. for now, you should be running in EP at the very least. i guess SM might be viable too. all those stupid braces make me unsure though.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by solo-x &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">fyi, your car should be running in EP at the least, more likely EM or DM (those classes are based on engine displacement and i can't remember which is 2.0l and under). for th list of things that are illegal....

first, you've got a SOHC vtec-e motor in the car. all the SOHC VTEC eg's go to DSP.

the quaife rack is not legal for SP, the camber kits are not legal for SP, the toe kit probably isn't even legal for Prepared, it's definitely not legal for street prepared. all of those tie bars and braces are not legal for SP, most aren't even legal for P. the 11" fastbrakes aren't legal for SP either, as well as the teg mc and the mc brace. and street prepared does not let you remove any of the interior bits from your car.

has anybody told you that 90% of the crap on your car is making it slower, not faster? you might also want to buy a rulebook so you can figure out what class you are in with all those useless mods. for now, you should be running in EP at the very least. i guess SM might be viable too. all those stupid braces make me unsure though.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Holy crap.... really.

So, what the 10% of my crap is making me faster.


Modified by kaiba at 7:18 AM 6/21/2006

 

the koni's, gc's and rear bar.

 

i know u cant run that ASR in a SP class... from what I understand