b16a? someone has to know
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b16a? someone has to know
ok i need to know what car my engine came out of for peace of mind, i already know its a b16a?? but the rest is ground off, is there an engine vin somwhere i can carfax, or another way to tell exactly what its out of so i dont waste anymore time buying supposed general b16a parts that dont fit properly, and no not all 99-00 parts fit and this is starting to cause me some problems, please any help is appreciated and yes i searched, i have a j1 tranny to it if that helps, and the guy i got it from all he can say is its jdm so WTF....thanks in advance 
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well a b16a came from a CRX SiR from japan so there is no way to tell where or how many miles or anything about them just gotta take the company that bought it from japans word for it
Oh yea at the bottom of this site there is a parts list for a b16a ----->http://www.crxresource.org/modules.p...rticle&sid=134
Oh yea at the bottom of this site there is a parts list for a b16a ----->http://www.crxresource.org/modules.p...rticle&sid=134
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not all came from the the crx sir or the civic sir only a few the majority of the first gen b-16a1 came from the integra xsi jdm of course :-) i have a b-16a1 with a j1 tranny also.
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Re: (Old Renegade)
B16a also came in the USDM Del SOl's only USDM to not have a number after it...on the casting on the head it should be stamped with a year and some other info that might help narrow it down 
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Re: b16a? someone has to know (HU MAN CHU)
WELL LIKE I SAID BEFORE AFTER THE B16A ITS SCRATCHED OFF SO I CANT TELL, AND SOME PARTS DIFFER FROM B16A/2/3 THERE IS A SET OF NUMBERS UNDER THE B16A STAMP WILL THOSE HELP OUT AT ALL
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Re: b16a? someone has to know (HU MAN CHU)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HU MAN CHU »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">WELL LIKE I SAID BEFORE AFTER THE B16A ITS SCRATCHED OFF SO I CANT TELL, AND SOME PARTS DIFFER FROM B16A/2/3 THERE IS A SET OF NUMBERS UNDER THE B16A STAMP WILL THOSE HELP OUT AT ALL</TD></TR></TABLE> You never told us it was scratched off bud.. the only other way i know to tell is to check on the top right of the engine on the head is should read pr3 or 4
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Re: b16a? someone has to know (HU MAN CHU)
You question has been answer 2 or 3 times now...No you can't use the numbers underneither whee it would say B16...Look for the stamp on the head and it should say PR3 or 4 and the date is stamped on the head and also turn off the caps look why are you yell at us?
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Re: b16a? someone has to know (Loserkidwac)
This should help you. Maybe someone should make this a sticky.
HOW TO TELL WHICH B16a YOU HAVE
Most people know there are two first generation B16a engines, both with 160hp.
The 1million series and the 5million series. Meaning the engine number starts with either a 1 or a 5
The 1million series were avliable in the Integra XSi and RSi from 1990 to 1991. And I can confirm there
was an Auto option.
The 1.2million series was avliable in the 92 XSi and RSi, and was also avliable with an Auto.
The 5million series was in the Civic and CRX SiR, and no Auto was avliable. However when the 5gen
Civic was released the hp was upped to 170hp, but the engine numbers continued on starting with a 5, and
other than some visual differnces it can be hard to tell if you have a 160 or 170hp engine.
Well here are the numbers after the 5-
50 1990 160hp }
52 1991 160hp }4g Civic/CRX SiR
and
54 1992- 170hp 5th and 6th gen SiR, SiRII and CRX delsol SiR.
Identifying 1st and 2nd generation B16A
The legendary B16A is the first engine to use the VTEC mechanism. Appearing in the JDM
DA6/DA8 Honda Integra RSi/XSi in mid 1989, the 1st generation B16As produced 160ps at
7600rpm with a max torque of 15.5kgm at 7000rpm and a redline of 8000rpm. This engine was
later 'migrated' into the EF9 Civic and EF8 CRX SiRs.
In 1991, the JDM DA6/DA8 Integra RSi/XSi again became the first models to receive the
revised 2nd generation B16As. Getting a slightly higher 10.4 CR with different pistons and
slightly wilder high cam profiles, the 2nd generation B16A produces 170ps at 7800rpm with a
max torque of 16.0kgm at 7300rpm and a redline of 8200rpm. Again this engine later migrated to
the EG6/EG9 Civic and EG2 CRX DelSol SiRs. It continues to be used on the EK4 Civic SiRs in
Japan and selected Asian markets.
A frequent question asked to TOVA involves how one can quickly identify the version of a
B16A engine, ie whether it's the 160ps earlier or 170ps later generations. Again the most
definitive way would be to break into the engine and take a look at the pistons and other
mechanisms. However in Malaysia, because of the great popularity of engine swaps using
imported 'half-cuts' (ie front half of an accident car containing the entire engine bay), a simpler
method has been devised to identify the version of the B16A. This involves looking at the valve
cover, specifically at the DOHC and VTEC words.
For the 160ps version B16A, the DOHC word will be larger than the VTEC word while the
reverse holds true for the 170ps version B16A. Other helpful identifications include looking for a
'PGM-Fi' plate on top of the intake manifold. The 160ps B16A will have the PGM-Fi plate while
the 170ps B16A will not.
However, TOVA cautions that this is a quick and general guide and will not be fool-proof. There
have been cases reported of half-cuts with a B16A with 170ps type valve cover but on an EF8
CRX SiR body (which is not supposed to have received this engine at all). Some says that the
last few production EF8s uses the 170ps engine while others feels that perhaps the new valve
cover designs were used to save production costs. Similarly, some DA6/DA8 Integras may be
running around with the 170ps B16A internals but with the older 160ps valve cover designs.
HOW TO TELL WHICH B16a YOU HAVE
Most people know there are two first generation B16a engines, both with 160hp.
The 1million series and the 5million series. Meaning the engine number starts with either a 1 or a 5
The 1million series were avliable in the Integra XSi and RSi from 1990 to 1991. And I can confirm there
was an Auto option.
The 1.2million series was avliable in the 92 XSi and RSi, and was also avliable with an Auto.
The 5million series was in the Civic and CRX SiR, and no Auto was avliable. However when the 5gen
Civic was released the hp was upped to 170hp, but the engine numbers continued on starting with a 5, and
other than some visual differnces it can be hard to tell if you have a 160 or 170hp engine.
Well here are the numbers after the 5-
50 1990 160hp }
52 1991 160hp }4g Civic/CRX SiR
and
54 1992- 170hp 5th and 6th gen SiR, SiRII and CRX delsol SiR.
Identifying 1st and 2nd generation B16A
The legendary B16A is the first engine to use the VTEC mechanism. Appearing in the JDM
DA6/DA8 Honda Integra RSi/XSi in mid 1989, the 1st generation B16As produced 160ps at
7600rpm with a max torque of 15.5kgm at 7000rpm and a redline of 8000rpm. This engine was
later 'migrated' into the EF9 Civic and EF8 CRX SiRs.
In 1991, the JDM DA6/DA8 Integra RSi/XSi again became the first models to receive the
revised 2nd generation B16As. Getting a slightly higher 10.4 CR with different pistons and
slightly wilder high cam profiles, the 2nd generation B16A produces 170ps at 7800rpm with a
max torque of 16.0kgm at 7300rpm and a redline of 8200rpm. Again this engine later migrated to
the EG6/EG9 Civic and EG2 CRX DelSol SiRs. It continues to be used on the EK4 Civic SiRs in
Japan and selected Asian markets.
A frequent question asked to TOVA involves how one can quickly identify the version of a
B16A engine, ie whether it's the 160ps earlier or 170ps later generations. Again the most
definitive way would be to break into the engine and take a look at the pistons and other
mechanisms. However in Malaysia, because of the great popularity of engine swaps using
imported 'half-cuts' (ie front half of an accident car containing the entire engine bay), a simpler
method has been devised to identify the version of the B16A. This involves looking at the valve
cover, specifically at the DOHC and VTEC words.
For the 160ps version B16A, the DOHC word will be larger than the VTEC word while the
reverse holds true for the 170ps version B16A. Other helpful identifications include looking for a
'PGM-Fi' plate on top of the intake manifold. The 160ps B16A will have the PGM-Fi plate while
the 170ps B16A will not.
However, TOVA cautions that this is a quick and general guide and will not be fool-proof. There
have been cases reported of half-cuts with a B16A with 170ps type valve cover but on an EF8
CRX SiR body (which is not supposed to have received this engine at all). Some says that the
last few production EF8s uses the 170ps engine while others feels that perhaps the new valve
cover designs were used to save production costs. Similarly, some DA6/DA8 Integras may be
running around with the 170ps B16A internals but with the older 160ps valve cover designs.
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Re: b16a? someone has to know (Slink2000)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by philkehn »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">b16a = jdm sir crx
b16a1 = eudm crx
b16a2 = 95-97 del sol</TD></TR></TABLE>
del sol came with a b16a3 ,,,the b16a2 is from the 99-00 civic si and from some euro cars....
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Slink2000 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This should help you. Maybe someone should make this a sticky.
HOW TO TELL WHICH B16a YOU HAVE
Most people know there are two first generation B16a engines, both with 160hp.
The 1million series and the 5million series. Meaning the engine number starts with either a 1 or a 5
The 1million series were avliable in the Integra XSi and RSi from 1990 to 1991. And I can confirm there
was an Auto option.
The 1.2million series was avliable in the 92 XSi and RSi, and was also avliable with an Auto.
The 5million series was in the Civic and CRX SiR, and no Auto was avliable. However when the 5gen
Civic was released the hp was upped to 170hp, but the engine numbers continued on starting with a 5, and
other than some visual differnces it can be hard to tell if you have a 160 or 170hp engine.
Well here are the numbers after the 5-
50 1990 160hp }
52 1991 160hp }4g Civic/CRX SiR
and
54 1992- 170hp 5th and 6th gen SiR, SiRII and CRX delsol SiR.
Identifying 1st and 2nd generation B16A
The legendary B16A is the first engine to use the VTEC mechanism. Appearing in the JDM
DA6/DA8 Honda Integra RSi/XSi in mid 1989, the 1st generation B16As produced 160ps at
7600rpm with a max torque of 15.5kgm at 7000rpm and a redline of 8000rpm. This engine was
later 'migrated' into the EF9 Civic and EF8 CRX SiRs.
In 1991, the JDM DA6/DA8 Integra RSi/XSi again became the first models to receive the
revised 2nd generation B16As. Getting a slightly higher 10.4 CR with different pistons and
slightly wilder high cam profiles, the 2nd generation B16A produces 170ps at 7800rpm with a
max torque of 16.0kgm at 7300rpm and a redline of 8200rpm. Again this engine later migrated to
the EG6/EG9 Civic and EG2 CRX DelSol SiRs. It continues to be used on the EK4 Civic SiRs in
Japan and selected Asian markets.
A frequent question asked to TOVA involves how one can quickly identify the version of a
B16A engine, ie whether it's the 160ps earlier or 170ps later generations. Again the most
definitive way would be to break into the engine and take a look at the pistons and other
mechanisms. However in Malaysia, because of the great popularity of engine swaps using
imported 'half-cuts' (ie front half of an accident car containing the entire engine bay), a simpler
method has been devised to identify the version of the B16A. This involves looking at the valve
cover, specifically at the DOHC and VTEC words.
For the 160ps version B16A, the DOHC word will be larger than the VTEC word while the
reverse holds true for the 170ps version B16A. Other helpful identifications include looking for a
'PGM-Fi' plate on top of the intake manifold. The 160ps B16A will have the PGM-Fi plate while
the 170ps B16A will not.
However, TOVA cautions that this is a quick and general guide and will not be fool-proof. There
have been cases reported of half-cuts with a B16A with 170ps type valve cover but on an EF8
CRX SiR body (which is not supposed to have received this engine at all). Some says that the
last few production EF8s uses the 170ps engine while others feels that perhaps the new valve
cover designs were used to save production costs. Similarly, some DA6/DA8 Integras may be
running around with the 170ps B16A internals but with the older 160ps valve cover designs.</TD></TR></TABLE>
there you go,,
b16a1 = eudm crx
b16a2 = 95-97 del sol</TD></TR></TABLE>
del sol came with a b16a3 ,,,the b16a2 is from the 99-00 civic si and from some euro cars....
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Slink2000 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This should help you. Maybe someone should make this a sticky.
HOW TO TELL WHICH B16a YOU HAVE
Most people know there are two first generation B16a engines, both with 160hp.
The 1million series and the 5million series. Meaning the engine number starts with either a 1 or a 5
The 1million series were avliable in the Integra XSi and RSi from 1990 to 1991. And I can confirm there
was an Auto option.
The 1.2million series was avliable in the 92 XSi and RSi, and was also avliable with an Auto.
The 5million series was in the Civic and CRX SiR, and no Auto was avliable. However when the 5gen
Civic was released the hp was upped to 170hp, but the engine numbers continued on starting with a 5, and
other than some visual differnces it can be hard to tell if you have a 160 or 170hp engine.
Well here are the numbers after the 5-
50 1990 160hp }
52 1991 160hp }4g Civic/CRX SiR
and
54 1992- 170hp 5th and 6th gen SiR, SiRII and CRX delsol SiR.
Identifying 1st and 2nd generation B16A
The legendary B16A is the first engine to use the VTEC mechanism. Appearing in the JDM
DA6/DA8 Honda Integra RSi/XSi in mid 1989, the 1st generation B16As produced 160ps at
7600rpm with a max torque of 15.5kgm at 7000rpm and a redline of 8000rpm. This engine was
later 'migrated' into the EF9 Civic and EF8 CRX SiRs.
In 1991, the JDM DA6/DA8 Integra RSi/XSi again became the first models to receive the
revised 2nd generation B16As. Getting a slightly higher 10.4 CR with different pistons and
slightly wilder high cam profiles, the 2nd generation B16A produces 170ps at 7800rpm with a
max torque of 16.0kgm at 7300rpm and a redline of 8200rpm. Again this engine later migrated to
the EG6/EG9 Civic and EG2 CRX DelSol SiRs. It continues to be used on the EK4 Civic SiRs in
Japan and selected Asian markets.
A frequent question asked to TOVA involves how one can quickly identify the version of a
B16A engine, ie whether it's the 160ps earlier or 170ps later generations. Again the most
definitive way would be to break into the engine and take a look at the pistons and other
mechanisms. However in Malaysia, because of the great popularity of engine swaps using
imported 'half-cuts' (ie front half of an accident car containing the entire engine bay), a simpler
method has been devised to identify the version of the B16A. This involves looking at the valve
cover, specifically at the DOHC and VTEC words.
For the 160ps version B16A, the DOHC word will be larger than the VTEC word while the
reverse holds true for the 170ps version B16A. Other helpful identifications include looking for a
'PGM-Fi' plate on top of the intake manifold. The 160ps B16A will have the PGM-Fi plate while
the 170ps B16A will not.
However, TOVA cautions that this is a quick and general guide and will not be fool-proof. There
have been cases reported of half-cuts with a B16A with 170ps type valve cover but on an EF8
CRX SiR body (which is not supposed to have received this engine at all). Some says that the
last few production EF8s uses the 170ps engine while others feels that perhaps the new valve
cover designs were used to save production costs. Similarly, some DA6/DA8 Integras may be
running around with the 170ps B16A internals but with the older 160ps valve cover designs.</TD></TR></TABLE>
there you go,,
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Re: b16a? someone has to know (johnjw)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by johnjw »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what PARTS differ, I think none</TD></TR></TABLE>
Some parts do differ but probably 99% of the parts are compatible. The only part I can remember as not being compatible was the gasket for the vtec soleinoid.
Some parts do differ but probably 99% of the parts are compatible. The only part I can remember as not being compatible was the gasket for the vtec soleinoid.
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Re: b16a? someone has to know (michaelOlson)
the distributer cap is also different, and the altenator, and the rotor...well thanks alot fellas, it helped me find out that it is jdm, so as far as cams, intake manifold and header i can use the 00 si parts..since there is no exact usdm tranlation to the xsi
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Re: b16a? someone has to know (si90rex)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by si90rex »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">for cap and rotor or throttle body and so on use 90-93 integra ls motor just remeber that 92-93 are obd1 so the dizzy are different i think.</TD></TR></TABLE>
for cap and rotor i get 88 dx parts,,but any 88-91 civic or 90-91 integra parts will work..
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HU MAN CHU »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the distributer cap is also different, and the altenator, and the rotor...well thanks alot fellas, it helped me find out that it is jdm, so as far as cams, intake manifold and header i can use the 00 si parts..since there is no exact usdm tranlation to the xsi</TD></TR></TABLE>
for cams any b-series vtec will work,,for intake manifold every dohc vtec b-series except the gsr b18c will work....for headers any b-series will bolt up,,,,,
for cap and rotor i get 88 dx parts,,but any 88-91 civic or 90-91 integra parts will work..
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HU MAN CHU »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the distributer cap is also different, and the altenator, and the rotor...well thanks alot fellas, it helped me find out that it is jdm, so as far as cams, intake manifold and header i can use the 00 si parts..since there is no exact usdm tranlation to the xsi</TD></TR></TABLE>
for cams any b-series vtec will work,,for intake manifold every dohc vtec b-series except the gsr b18c will work....for headers any b-series will bolt up,,,,,
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Re: b16a? someone has to know (si90rex)
Numbers are ground off?
Sounds like you have a stolen engine..
From the FAQ section:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1024595
Sounds like you have a stolen engine..
From the FAQ section:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1024595
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Re: b16a? someone has to know (HU MAN CHU)
what a JDM B16A that all it should say. 88-91 just say that only 92-up have b16a1, b16a2, what ever, that what a b16a is. nothing has been grounded off.
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Re: b16a? someone has to know (si90rex)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by si90rex »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what a JDM B16A that all it should say. 88-91 just say that only
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If they're jdm they all say "B16a",it isnt just the old ones...All non jdm b16 have numbers after them....
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If they're jdm they all say "B16a",it isnt just the old ones...All non jdm b16 have numbers after them....
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