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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 08:35 PM
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When im driving my 00 coupe and i push the gas and let off the shifter itself moves a little bit. I can watch it move around like its moving up when it accelerates and then it falls back toward me when i get off teh gas to shift. Anyone else notice this also?

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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 08:39 PM
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that's very odd... post when you figure this out
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 08:40 PM
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sometimes it takes almost full clutch to make it engage...i really hope my clutch isnt going..its only got 72k on it...

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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 08:41 PM
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noticed this on alot of cars. seemed to never be a problem. i do beleive its just that your smashing throttle then fully releasing it and the engine torque is causing everything to move. just from what ive noticed
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 08:43 PM
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ya. its not even when i drive it hard, its just when i drive it. i guess i would know if my clutch was going out...ive been driving a manual long enough to notice that...

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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 08:55 PM
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have you checked your tranny fluid? that could be why you have to floor the clutch. or even try bleeding it?
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 08:59 PM
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OMG, can't believe you guys are saying "its odd" This happens in most stick cars, it's just due to worn out shifter bushings and/or bad tranny mounts.
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 09:00 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by postman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">noticed this on alot of cars. seemed to never be a problem. i do beleive its just that your smashing throttle then fully releasing it and the engine torque is causing everything to move. just from what ive noticed</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 10:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fast95eg8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">.... it's just due to worn out shifter bushings and/or bad tranny mounts.</TD></TR></TABLE>

almost a full page of replies and finally this guy gets it right.

replace your shifter bushings with some ES units, and check to see if your torque mounts are worn out/torn.
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 10:20 PM
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LOL

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fast95eg8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">OMG, can't believe you guys are saying "its odd" This happens in most stick cars, it's just due to worn out shifter bushings and/or bad tranny mounts.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, but you can never completely stop it from moving. When a motor revs, it "flexes". (thats why flexpipes and springloaded bolts for your headers/cat even exist). When the top of your motor flexes towards your firewall, your engine mounts being like a pivot point, the bottom of your engine flexes forward.

Guess where your shift linkage is mounted? Transmission on the bottom side. As the tranny flexes forward it pulls the linkage with it, making your shifter tilt towards the back of the car. When your motor decerlates, it moves back, and thus, the shifter moves back.
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 10:34 PM
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mine 99 coupe does the same thing...even when i bought it with 49k it did it...and after i installed my b&m short shifter..still does it...
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 10:38 PM
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Ummm it's because the engine/tranny is moving and your shifter is connected to the tranny. So it has to move. There is nothing to to help it flex. It is nothing to worry about.
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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 10:39 PM
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That rear transmission mount is doing something wrong, sweety. That's not normal.
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 12:41 AM
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Mine moves when i excellerate/let my foot off the gas also. However, mine also shakes like crazy when i brake (the rest of the car doesn't), this can't be normal can it?
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 01:15 AM
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motor mount? had it happen to me in my last ride but no problems
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 02:59 AM
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bad torque mounts will cause the tranny to move and pop outta gear
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 05:18 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Archidictus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That rear transmission mount is doing something wrong, sweety. That's not normal.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Uuhh. Yes it is normal. Unless your car has cable linkage, it is normal.

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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 05:20 AM
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Bad Mount
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 07:34 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PhatBoy5015 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Uuhh. Yes it is normal. Unless your car has cable linkage, it is normal.

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it is normal, to a certian extent.
If his shifter is moving more than an inch, Id say he's got a mount problem.
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 08:38 AM
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This scares me beacuse I don't do any work on my cars. I can do simple bolt ones, but thats it. I have no tools. I have also noticed its kinda rough going into gear, like its sticky kinda. I have some synchromesh I want to put in the tranny. How much of a fix do you think this is? Am i looking at shelling out alot of money or what to get something like this fixed.

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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 08:39 AM
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And the shifter pretty much moves when I engage the Clutch, not let off the gas; my mistake.

Mike
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 08:48 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mikeunreal2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And the shifter pretty much moves when I engage the Clutch, not let off the gas; my mistake.

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I guarantee you it's your torque mounts. they are probably torn and worn out. Mine were torn and my shifter moved excessivly evertime there was a shift in the load on the tranny.
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 09:03 AM
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Is this going to hurt anything? Do i need to adress this problem asap or will my shifter just move and not damage anything.

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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 09:04 AM
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Is this an expensive repair??

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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 09:06 AM
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Rear mount mounted on the subframe is shot. Depending on where you go, I'd say it's about 1.5hrs of labor, and the part is...?
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