Does the standard crome system allow you to tune each combustion chamber individually or is this an add-on/plug in to the standard crome system?

thanks in advance

 

its an extra plugin you have to install. I think its called advancedfeatures.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">its an extra plugin you have to install. I think its called advancedfeatures.</TD></TR></TABLE>

it's still free yea?

 

Wow ihave not seen this yet where are you guys finding all of these added features.. Besides pgmfi.org
Thank you
Chris whitfield

 

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Thank you
Chris whitfield</TD></TR></TABLE>

98Vtec found it in 'advanced features' or so...i've never seen or used Crome before but looks like we'll have to look into this more
hell if it's free...why pay $$$$$$$$$$ for a motec if crome does the exact/similar thing yea?

 

I'm trying to find the link so you can download it. My computer crashed on me a few months ago and i lost all my crap. I've got 1.2 now and it doesnt have the cylinder trims on there anymore. I had 1.1.8 when there was a plugin that added like 10-15 extra advanced tables and the individual cylinder trim had four seperate tables, one for each cylinder.
I had never used it before so i have no clue if it even worked. John could have removed in when he released the next beta version in attempt to maybe fix it?

I'm looking on sourceforge right now. I'll see what i can find.

 

http://sourceforge.net/project...58624

"advanced tables"

go to notes and it says individual cylinder trim.


EDIT:
And now i just looked through my files in crome for 1.2 and it has individual cylinder trim but only as one table. Its a correction factor like the fuel compensation tables.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">http://sourceforge.net/project...58624

"advanced tables"

go to notes and it says individual cylinder trim.


EDIT:
And now i just looked through my files in crome for 1.2 and it has individual cylinder trim but only as one table. Its a correction factor like the fuel compensation tables.</TD></TR></TABLE>

good job sir

 

 

This was taken from http://www.PGMFI.org - (http://forum.pgmfi.org/viewtopic.php?t=4383)

I think the Additional Pluggins are for dealers only..

CromeFree (0 USD)
- Friendly Interface
- Toolbars for quick access to common commands
- Undo/Redo history
- Import/Export maps
- Edit in Table View or 2D Graph View
- Support for OBD1 P28, P30, P72 variant ROMs
- Highly customizable and extensible with use of plugins (allows for extra features to be added to both the ROM and the software)
- Built-in fuel multiplier to reduce the guesswork when changing to different size injectors
- Built-in boost tables adjustment
- Map Smoothing tool helps get rid of spikes (best seen on graph view)
- Keep track of changes with ROM notes
- Real-Time Programming capable, with support for Xtronics ROMulator, Moates Ostrich/BURN1, and PGMFI RTP*
- I know there's more of the basic features like Cut/Copy/Paste, etc., but there are too many to list

CromePro (149 USD)
- All features included in CromeFree
- Datalogging (includes: rpm, speed, gear, MAP, boost, TPS, injector duration, duty cycle, ignition advance, knock retard, air temp, coolant temp, o2 voltage, lambda, VTC, CEL Codes). Now with Auto-Save feature so you'll never lose that valuable tuning time if your PC shuts down.
- Map tracing allows you to follow where within the maps you currently are. This is great when dynoing your car so you can pinpoint exactly where things need to be changed (this also works with ITB applications where the tables are indexed with both MAP sensor and TP sensor). And with RTP, you can make changes and get results instantaneously.
- Lambda Logging keeps track of lambda/AFR readings on a given cell in the table. This lets you know what areas of the map are running lean or rich. The more acurate your hardware is, the more accurate the reading will be as well.
- Knock Logging keeps track of knock retard value applied on a given cell in the table. This will allow you to fine tune the ignition tables to get the most out of your motor without the risk of detonating.
- Auto-Adjustments eases the work of tuning by letting the software make the appropriate changes to the tables according to the readings from the Lambda and Knock Loggers. This feature is user definable and can be set to tune agressively or moderately.
- *Live Auto-Adjustments will apply the Auto-Adjustments to the maps after every given interval or sample count. This will allow for changes to be made continually while driving without the user having to manually click the 'Auto-Adjustment' button.
- Datalog Replay lets you save and open datalogs so they can be analyzed and viewed at a more convenient time.
- Lambda Offset adjustment lets you fine tune your lambda reading by applying an offset value to match Cromes readings with the Wide-Band's display
- *DynoTools is a new feature that will let you take a datalog and calculate the estimated horsepower and torque. This will require a clean run without any wheelspin in order to achieve more acurate results.
- *Data Filter uses statistical analysis to weed out bad readings in the lambda tables
- *Smart Fill helps speed up the tuning process by filling in blank spaces in the lambda table. No longer do you have to try to fill in every spot on the table, Smart fill will analyze the surrounding cells of an empty cell and performs a simple calculation to determine what value goes into the empty space
- ** Tune Wizard is a simple (point and click) wizard that will make suggestions as to what is the approriate action for tuning. This give some intelligence to the software and free the user from having to make decisions such as whether to change the overall fuel multiplier or change individual cells.
- **Data Graphing lets you review datalog files in graph mode to have a better sense of whats going on.

CromeDealer (450 USD)
- All features included in CromePro
- License to use Crome commercially
- Additional Plugins only available with a dealer license
- Other extras upon reasonable request

*Features currently under testing
**Features not fully incorporated yet (or hidden)

To register or purchase a license, click on 'Register' on the welcome screen and then 'Get Reg String' on the next form. This will take you to a webpage where you can choose the license type you wish to purchase.

Important
To use the datalogging features of CromePro, you will need the right datalogging hardware. Also, I prefer people get to know the program first before purchasing because I don't really have a help file and I don't think I can handle being technical support for the basic features.

 

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This was taken from http://www.PGMFI.org - (http://forum.pgmfi.org/viewtopic.php?t=4383)

I think the Additional Pluggins are for dealers only..
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uh...you forget what i do for a living f00
it might take some time...but it is not an impossibility

 

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uh...you forget what i do for a living f00
it might take some time...but it is not an impossibility </TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats why I asked for the Hondata Key Gen...

I need it to tune my car..

 

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Thats why I asked for the Hondata Key Gen...

I need it to tune my car.. </TD></TR></TABLE>

well...from the looks of things, the key they use is locked into that specific laptop...they use the mac id for the machine, mac id from NIC card and/or combo of the cd rom/hd to generate the key...but that's not so bad....just gotta figure out the algorithm they use to do it with or something similar

now crome...i haven't touched at all...but since it's free...i'm on like like flies on sh*t

"DRM??? what's that"

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">98Vtec found it in 'advanced features' or so...i've never seen or used Crome before but looks like we'll have to look into this more
hell if it's free...why pay $$$$$$$$$$ for a motec if crome does the exact/similar thing yea?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Man, comparing a Crome system to a Motec is truly apples to oranges, no.. more like to kiwi. Crome is specific to Hondas, while a Motec is proven in many engines/race applications. I say get what you can afford and remember that the most important part of the whole project is usually the one most ppl cheap out on...the EMS.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Muad’Dib &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Man comparing a Crome system to a Motec is truly apples to oranges, no more like to kiwi. Crome is specific to Hondas, while a Motec is proven in many engines/race applications. I say get what you can afford and remember that the most important part of the whole project is usually the one most ppl cheap out on...the EMS.</TD></TR></TABLE>

these programs do have their flaws. But since the program is free and not 2000 plus dollars, i'd say it one HELL of a deal. Especially if you are doing the tuning yourself. Sure the standalone systems like aem, haltech, motec, F.A.S.T. are more precise and accurate than the honda based programs, but there are many people with mild builds who arent willing to fork out the money for standalone when they can get a free program that can do pretty much what a standalone can do. I'm using pretty much sparingly.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by WHITFIELD-TUNED &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wow ihave not seen this yet where are you guys finding all of these added features.. Besides pgmfi.org
Thank you
Chris whitfield</TD></TR></TABLE>

I think you live behind a stone chris :-)

1st you did not know about the 2 step or cel shift light plugin
Now you dont know about advanced tables...

You need to buy my crome pro laptop to be leet:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1656971

 

John lol that was a long time ago..... My current setup is a p28 with emulator mounted inside also xenocrons usb datalog also mounted inside..... And should be live tuning via wireless in about a week...
With all the "kool guy" features such as programable ignition retard script.. AC cutoff and user defined nos control (using aib output) crome rocks

 

Glad people help you out bro.....^

I am still tryin to get RTP goin with this frickin Xtronics Romulator. Just would like to know the startup/bin load sequence when everyone goes into RTP. I can't get rid of this damn solid cel and get the bin to load. RTP connects and "sees" the Romulator...just won't work.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by WHITFIELD-TUNED &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">John lol that was a long time ago..... My current setup is a p28 with emulator mounted inside also xenocrons usb datalog also mounted inside..... And should be live tuning via wireless in about a week...
With all the "kool guy" features such as programable ignition retard script.. AC cutoff and user defined nos control (using aib output) crome rocks </TD></TR></TABLE>

You still smell

Just fwy