Water Wetter
I'm considering switching to distilled water and Water Wetter. It seems like almost everyone has no issue, but a few do. They say the problem shows up as little ***** of "goo" or a while powdery substance in the water jacket. So, what have you found?
Oh, if you have problems, but have anti-freeze as part of the mix, please note that.
Oh, if you have problems, but have anti-freeze as part of the mix, please note that.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Evan55 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">pair it up with some water pump lube / anti corrosion additive and its great
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Why lube? The water pump on hondas are enclosed, sealed from water bearings..
</TD></TR></TABLE>Why lube? The water pump on hondas are enclosed, sealed from water bearings..
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Honda318dx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Why lube? The water pump on hondas are enclosed, sealed from water bearings..</TD></TR></TABLE>
The lube keeps the water pump shaft seal from getting hard extending the life of the pump.
Why lube? The water pump on hondas are enclosed, sealed from water bearings..</TD></TR></TABLE>
The lube keeps the water pump shaft seal from getting hard extending the life of the pump.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Evan55 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">pair it up with some water pump lube / anti corrosion additive and its great
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Doesent the water wetter or similar product allready have such an additive with it?
Edo
</TD></TR></TABLE>Doesent the water wetter or similar product allready have such an additive with it?
Edo
Yeah, my research elsewhere makes me suspect the people who end up with deposits in the cooling systems added waterwetter to previously existing anti-freeze. OTOH RedLine documentation doesn't say there's anything outright wrong with doing that, but talking to them they said:
"A precipitate can form in conjunction with the corrosion package in some antifreezes, this isn't a goo and isn't detrimental. It typically is seen in the expansion tank as small dark blobs, at operating temperature in the cooling system will go back into suspension. When seen it is generally in the lower temperature expansion tank.
If it is a whitish/clear goo that generally is from the presence of silicates. A goo is generally from silicates. A silicate containing antifreeze might have been introduced or residual in the system. If the PH drops low enough a silicate goo could form. This could occur over time or the slight drop in PH from the WaterWetter might be enough to allow formation."
So the stuff still looks promising... just don't mix it with antifreeze.
"A precipitate can form in conjunction with the corrosion package in some antifreezes, this isn't a goo and isn't detrimental. It typically is seen in the expansion tank as small dark blobs, at operating temperature in the cooling system will go back into suspension. When seen it is generally in the lower temperature expansion tank.
If it is a whitish/clear goo that generally is from the presence of silicates. A goo is generally from silicates. A silicate containing antifreeze might have been introduced or residual in the system. If the PH drops low enough a silicate goo could form. This could occur over time or the slight drop in PH from the WaterWetter might be enough to allow formation."
So the stuff still looks promising... just don't mix it with antifreeze.
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From my research the RP version does not leave any sort of residue. Its also being used in 3 of our cars none of which have any residue (being used with antifreeze).
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kb58 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What's the "RP" version?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Royal Purple Ice
http://www.royalpurple.com/prodsa/prpice.html
Royal Purple Ice
http://www.royalpurple.com/prodsa/prpice.html
RedLine say adding WaterWetter to a water/antifreeze mix gives NO cooling improvement . Not sure why people would add the stuff if they're going to keep the antifreeze.
2 bottles + distilled water in the dorifto machine. it helps.
i have a horrible tendancy to run hot because of the front mount intercooler, it extends the time i can HPDE/drift a bit before i have to come off in the hotter months.
before water wetter about 10 hard minutes (were talking hard) id start to run warm. with water wetter its about 13-15.
i have a horrible tendancy to run hot because of the front mount intercooler, it extends the time i can HPDE/drift a bit before i have to come off in the hotter months.
before water wetter about 10 hard minutes (were talking hard) id start to run warm. with water wetter its about 13-15.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kb58 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">RedLine say adding WaterWetter to a water/antifreeze mix gives NO cooling improvement . Not sure why people would add the stuff if they're going to keep the antifreeze.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah they do...its on the bottle, and on the website
http://www.redlineoil.com/products_coolant.asp
Or it can be added to new or used antifreeze to improve the heat transfer of ethylene and propylene glycol systems
yeah they do...its on the bottle, and on the website
http://www.redlineoil.com/products_coolant.asp
Or it can be added to new or used antifreeze to improve the heat transfer of ethylene and propylene glycol systems
Nuts, you're correct, that didn't come out right. What I meant to say was I was surprised by this, from their technical page: http://www.redlineoil.com/whitePaper/17.pdf
"50/50 water + coolant with waterwetter = 220deg
water = 220deg."
"50/50 water + coolant with waterwetter = 220deg
water = 220deg."
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kb58 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Nuts, you're correct, that didn't come out right. What I meant to say was I was surprised by this, from their technical page: http://www.redlineoil.com/whitePaper/17.pdf
"50/50 water + coolant with waterwetter = 220deg
water = 220deg."
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Funny, here is what I read:
50% Glycol/ 50% Water 228°F
50/50 with WaterWetter® 220°F
Water 220°F
Water with WaterWetter® 202°F
Water with Water wetter is 202, that is pretty good...
"50/50 water + coolant with waterwetter = 220deg
water = 220deg."
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Funny, here is what I read:
50% Glycol/ 50% Water 228°F
50/50 with WaterWetter® 220°F
Water 220°F
Water with WaterWetter® 202°F
Water with Water wetter is 202, that is pretty good...
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