I'm looking to replace the stock air box and was wondering wether i should go with AEM or Injen. I want a short ram just so I know I'll never have problems with getting water logged. AEM is cheaper, about 120 on ebay and Injen claims to get better results but it's about 150 or so. Also, does it matter that my car has ABS when I buy the intake? I've read different things. Appreciate it!

 

a short ram is a short ram. there wont be too much of a difference between the AEM or injen or the generic pipe and filter egay jaunt. your primarily buying the name

 

the injen will give you the flexiblity to buy their CAI extension pipe to convert it to a CAI if you choose to do so....

not saying you can't do the same with some 90 degree piping on an AEM or ebay intake

 

Here's three I'm looking at. I would like to have a complete CAI and the AC autotechnic looks pretty good but what is the actual possibility of water ever being ingested?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...wItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...%3AIT

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...%3AIT

 

AEM CAI + Bypass + Hacksaw = Extreme Flexability FTW!!

 

I'm mainly just looking for better throttle response and maybe a few extra ponies and a little better mileage from this. The car is an auto so I'm looking for cost efficiency and long-term durabilty over expandability. If I had a 5-speed, yeah, I'd go all out but I don't think there's any point really since it's the auto. So are the gains from a CAI that much more than just a RAM? I live in the south so the winters are usually really wet. And the rest of the year is really hot.

 

I have AEM short ram for my 96 accord and it sounds awesome i noticed a little bit more power, My MPG went up a few miles which is always a major plus...i recommend AEM.

 

i think your gas mileage should get worse with an intake, correct me if im wrong

 

Regardless of your intake, stock, AEM/Injen CAI or AEM/Injen short ram, you won't notice any difference other than sound. If you've got a stock motor with an auto tranny, and looking for fuel efficiency, then an aftermarket intake system -- short ram or cool air -- is barking up the wrong tree.

I doubt anyone could prove me wrong that a K&N drop-in filter is your BEST bet. It's cheaper than replacing the entire intake system, easier, and more cost effective. Our Accords draw air from behind the bumper in stock design. You might consider removing the chamber behind the bumper that your stock air box goes down into to get even cooler air.

Point being, you'll take a at least a year to make up the cost of the intake with any improvement gas mileage.

 

yea but it does help your gas mileage it doesnt make it worse...

 

afaccord, based on what youre saying, i would forget messing with the intake at all. an air filter is first and foremost, an airfilter!! i seriously doubt you would get any gains worth the oiling of the cotton filter every so often.

and in regard to what i was saying about you losing gas milage, if the aftermarket intake is designed to draw more air in, the ecu will add more gas once it realizes the engine is running leaner than it should

 

Think I'll go with either the AEM RAM or AC Autotechnic CAI. Remo: that's just not how it works. If you are running WOT ALL the time then yes, you will get worse gas mileage because of the increased air and fuel etc. But just cruising down the highway with a free-er flowing intake makes it easier for the engine to suck air in and less power is wasted to creating the vacuum needed for intake. 80mph now and 80mph after the intake still requires the exact same amount of power and because the intake system is more efficient it makes the engine more efficient and everything works better. Just because you allow the engine the capability of drawing more air doesn't mean it is going to unless it needs to - WOT. However, the air that it does need just cruising will not take as much vacuum HP to draw in. But anyway, even if I don't get much more mileage out of it, I want the throttle response, sound, looks, and not ever having to buy a filter again which is another way it will pay for itself.

 

^ lol

 

so you say an intake does give you worse mileage at wot, then why wouldnt it give you worse mileage everywhere else? explain that to me. if im wrong, then its a pretty common misconception among a lot of people on this board.

 

It doesn't give you worse gas mileage. Worse gas mileage is due to you letting it rip everywhere because vtec and your engine both scream louder. With my Injen CAI, I get about 1 mpg better if I don't let it rip, but rather drive normally. I love my Injen CAI, it really makes the engine scream at WOT. I felt some gains, but I put my WS2 and injen on at the same time, so I don't know what it would be like with just the intake. Throttle response gets way better.

 

ok ill shut up

 

LOL. Point and case= replacing your stock intake with ANY aftermarket intake will help. WHy? because the aftermarket intakes are very simple designs and allow the car to breathe more easily(making possibly better mileage and better throttle response, its a proven fact) . Well, why dont manufactures put better intakes in then? Simple again, because aftermarket parts will increase bottom $, also when you allow a car to breathe better you will hear the engine (thus making it LOUDER), therefore manfactures will give YOU the option to bolt on what you may consider "better" products after it leaves the showroom. Will the dealers install the aftermarket intake? Definately, I know for a fact both Coggin owned and CLassic owned Honda/Acura dealerships will install and sell AEM intakes to you. Hope this helps!

 

I got an AEM SR and it gave me a noticable performance increase, not drastic, but it helped. It was really easy to install too.

 

if your looking for throttle response then get a short ram, short ram gives better throttle response then a CAI

 

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While being louder is one point, the most important word here is 'Emissions.'

Everyone here is still talking throttle response? I could have sworn we were discussing a vehicle equipped with an automatic transmission...

 

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While being louder is one point, the most important word here is 'Emissions.'
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that and cost...a dollar saved per car equals millions

 

I went with the AC Autotechnic CAI, it's on the way for $90. Hopefully it'll sound as good as the big names do. I know i'll sacrifice a little throttle response with the longer track but I don't want warm/hot air from under the hood being sucked in. And as far as the whole auto thing goes, I don't know how your auto shifts but mine shifts quick and firm and it already has pretty good response for it being auto, moreso than any other auto I've ever drivin except for my old diesel truck I had.

 

Some of you guys crack me up.

If a manufacturer used a "better" intake as someone put it, do you really think it would cost more? It's not like the engineers are going to go out and buy aftermarket parts and call it OEM. They'll design their own. Aftermarket intakes are very simple designs, while most current OEM intakes on the other hand, are not. Which do you think really costs more to produce?

Manufacturers design their cars to meet the demands of the majority. And guess what... People modifying cars are not the majority. They don't purposefully leave it up to us to mod it. If they had, the new Accord V6s wouldn't have the exhaust manifolds cast into the block, thus making it impossible to replace.

I used to have a CAI. I then traded my buddy for his AEM SRI. I'm now using the stock intake again. Why? Because aftermarket intakes do very, very little for Accord 4-bangers besides make noise. If all you want is more noise, then just remove the stock resonator and enjoy. And look, I just saved you $100 or more.
I drive the same with or without aftermarket intakes, b/c I don't give a rat's *** about intake sound. And guess what again, absolutely no difference in gas mileage or power. Sure, maybe a lost the 2-3 hp I had gained by installing an aftermarket intake, but you'd be fooling yourself if you said you could actually feel the difference.

 

I got the intake in and at the moment have it installed as a short ram because i didn't have enough time to install the lower section. I guess I need to cut some of the sheet metal away to the left of the battery to fit the CAI? I don't see any other way of doing it. I'll probably go into the shop tomorrow and finish it up. This filter sounds aweful. It's loud as crap under accelleration but about normal cruising. It has some sort of funky curvey design on the end that, I think, allows air to come in faster than the rest of the filter and makes it loud. So I'm going to cut a circle of plastic or something and block off the air so it doesn't pull through there and hopefully that will fix it. If not I'm going to get a K&N.

 

Sooo, you're throwing out all advice given thus far in favor of 'rigging' something to fit and act the way you want it, right?

I think you just wasted a good bit of money when you should have simply replaced the filter. But that's just my two cents...