hey everyone i was wondering for my 1.8 ls vtec setup which contain

b16a head ported and polished
rm valve spring and retainer
itr intake manifold ported match
65 jg throttle body ported
310 rc injectors
3 inch aem cold air intake
ls bottom block with p30 piston
arp rod bolt
arp head stud
gsr tranny
p28 with crome

would be the best came for this set up BC4 or m22x? i heard both cams are very good and make good number...does any do dyno test on these to cams yet and need sum feed back on this post. thanx

 

m22x

 

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why do you recommend them. just curious

 

because they pretty much the same as the skunk pro 1 and they make better top end power. easier to tune, great idle, good gas mileage when not in vtec.The minimum compression needed is 11.1. I plan on getting them in the future.

 

The M22x is actually quite a bit different from the Pro1, they have a completely different powerband. To the creator, in all honesty I think the BC4's will give you more midrange because the primaries are larger, but the M22 would catch up with the BC once vtec engaged and could possibly pass the BC4 on the top end. Both are great cams, the M22 is gonna idle a little better but give you the same power up top. We've never compared these two cams and I've always wanted to see them against eachother. I might try to do it this fall or winter, we'll see. I personally run the M22x in my car and I love them, the car never wants to stop revving.

 

M22XX would solve the midrange...

 

I would go with a M24x cam. Those primaries are pretty nice and make awsome midrange and of course good up top. I really like the primaries on the M24x good profiles....

 

He doesn't have the displacement or compression for M24's.

 

i was leaning toward the m22x which is very good in vtec and im trying to rich the 200 mark thats y...u think the RM package is good for 899?

 

In the correct motor, I would consider it one of the most cost-effective upgrades.

 

can u get away with 11.1 compression with the bc4 cams?

 

Yes, as long as you have a good intake and header...headwork would help allot also.

 

M22's have made over 238whp on a B18C5 stock block...

 

 

how about the blox cam type b's...most of the ppl i see using it on ls vtec dyno around 214-217whp..is that what they max at...is blox better then m22x?

 

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do you have a graph of this? I'm interested in seeing it.

 

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Rgoose18 I think is his s/n on here.

Blox better than RM... No comment.

 

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The S2/Blox cams do make power, but I would personally put the M22x up against a S2S2/Blox B in any motor.

 

there was aguy on here that made 244 wit blox b's on a b20 vtec wit nothin really crazy done to it. ive seen lots of dynos wit these cams makin good power. if u go in the marketplace there is one sponsor who sells the blox b's for like 400 or 425 shipped. also, ive heard nothin but good about rockets cams.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b20powereDA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">there was aguy on here that made 244 wit blox b's on a b20 vtec wit nothin really crazy done to it. ive seen lots of dynos wit these cams makin good power. if u go in the marketplace there is one sponsor who sells the blox b's for like 400 or 425 shipped. also, ive heard nothin but good about rockets cams. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Blox b's are a good cam, I mean they are a skunk 2 copy, which is similar to the Jun 3 , which is arguebly the most versitile cam around, but this is not to say that newer cam technology hasnt lead to cams which make more power over a broader powerband.

That said... I would like to think that the m22 and/or the bc4's would make more power.


Modified by 97L-esVeeTeg at 4:45 PM 6/9/2006

 

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He would've had to had some aftermarket pistons in that, and was probably around a 12.1 c/r. With a good header and decent intake, yeah 244 is believable, but nothing the M22's couldn't do also.

 

on the price range i see bc4 and blox b's cam cheaper then m22x...trying to save money and getting good power which one is more worth the valve?

 

Blox/BC cams are made in Taiwan, RM's are made of Crower blanks.

 

Alway's go cheaper, just don't complain later.

 

lol