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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 06:33 PM
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hey guys i gotta type r motor in my EK. I wanna kno if its normal for blk smoke to come out when i open the vtec? thanx
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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 06:35 PM
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sounds like your running hella rich.
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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 06:41 PM
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well, first off, don't open the vtec, because sometimes its hard to shut. second, i agree that you are running rich, do you have the right computer? any excessive fuel mods? adjustable fpr, injectors, fuel pump???
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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 06:48 PM
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no everyting is stock. I kno the check engine light is on but its throwing lots of codes. The codes are 10-41-54-63-91-74. I dunno what it is./
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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 06:50 PM
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when you open the vtec, clean the screen and replace trhe gaskets, or else, vtec might not close properly
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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 06:53 PM
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what u mean clean the screen. Whcih gaskets shudd i change. i changed the valve cover
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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 06:54 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek9tl &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no everyting is stock. I kno the check engine light is on but its throwing lots of codes. The codes are 10-41-54-63-91-74. I dunno what it is./</TD></TR></TABLE>

ummm.... shouldn't your post have been, "i'm thorwing the following codes"? then someone would tell you to search, then you'd do that, and find out the codes mean (fill in the blank) , and then we wouldn't even have to address the black smoke issue?
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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 06:59 PM
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get the right ecu thats probably the problem alot of cars always smoke when you mash on the gas abnd hit vtec its normal i think ... i know that when ever my chech engine light is in my engine dont hit vtec the same or at all
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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 07:02 PM
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i think we all want to know, how do you open vtec?!
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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 07:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek9tl &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no everyting is stock. I kno the check engine light is on but its throwing lots of codes. The codes are 10-41-54-63-91-74. I dunno what it is./</TD></TR></TABLE>

Jesus Man.. Dont drive your car.. Its not running right and you gotta fix this before you beat on it.. you gotta be misfiring like crazy. Bad o2 Sensors COULD throw you into limp mode (also makes you run rich)


10 IAT - intake air temperature sensor
41 Primary oxygen sensor heater
54 CKF - crank fluctuation sensor
63 Secondary oxygen sensor
91 Fuel Tank Pressure Sensor low input
74 random misfire cylinder 4
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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 07:10 PM
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thats the ting, when i open the vtec i notice that everyting seems to be normal&gt; The car does not sound like its misfiring. It drives normal to me. PPl tell me tha the swap tha was done to it cudd be the prblem wiht the wiring harness makin it throw out those codes.
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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 07:13 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMlyfestyle &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Jesus Man.. Dont drive your car.. Its not running right and you gotta fix this before you beat on it.. you gotta be misfiring like crazy. Bad o2 Sensors COULD throw you into limp mode (also makes you run rich)


10 IAT - intake air temperature sensor
41 Primary oxygen sensor heater
54 CKF - crank fluctuation sensor
63 Secondary oxygen sensor
91 Fuel Tank Pressure Sensor low input
74 random misfire cylinder 4
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yea definitely need to fix the above before you even drive your car... let alone "open vtec"!!
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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 07:13 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek9tl &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats the ting, when i open the vtec i notice that everyting seems to be normal&gt; The car does not sound like its misfiring. It drives normal to me. PPl tell me tha the swap tha was done to it cudd be the prblem wiht the wiring harness makin it throw out those codes.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Definately could be a harness issue.. also could be a ECU issue.

what ECU are you using? are you 96-98 or 99-00?
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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 07:26 PM
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make sure you refrigerate your vtec after opening
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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 07:27 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by banzai msg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">make sure you refrigerate your vtec after opening</TD></TR></TABLE>

no doubt, but make sure it pops the first time you open it, that means its fresh!
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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 07:30 PM
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well i got the p73 obd2. what poppin noise shudd i listen for.What shudd i do to hear it closely?
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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 07:32 PM
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and don't drink it if the seal is broken
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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 07:33 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek9tl &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well i got the p73 obd2. what poppin noise shudd i listen for.What shudd i do to hear it closely?</TD></TR></TABLE>

i wouldnt recommend driving it until you get rid of those CEL's
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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 07:34 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek9tl &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well i got the p73 obd2. what poppin noise shudd i listen for.What shudd i do to hear it closely?</TD></TR></TABLE>

turn on the car, hold your ear to the valve cover, and hold the throttle at wot and hold it there for about 5 minutes, if you hear a loud pop, its broken
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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 07:37 PM
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Jesus can you guys stop bashing the guy.. he is here and he is following the rules..

He is here to learn something about his car and figure out whats wrong with it.

Please try to stay on topic.. Bash only those that deserve to be bashed. this guy doesnt need it
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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 07:44 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMlyfestyle &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Jesus can you guys stop bashing the guy.. he is here and he is following the rules..

He is here to learn something about his car and figure out whats wrong with it.

Please try to stay on topic.. Bash only those that deserve to be bashed. this guy doesnt need it</TD></TR></TABLE>

don't think i agree with ya there guy, he needs to do more research before he touches that car, a mechanic should handle this one
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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 07:45 PM
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why do you think i told him i wouldnt recommend driving it til he clears those CEL.. if he cant clear them then Someone else can
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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 07:49 PM
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WOW. Why would you want to attemp to drive the car w/o even knowing what those codes were? You need to fix all the problems before you open the vtec, and break it all.
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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 07:50 PM
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the way i figure it, nobody "deserves" bashing, but if anybody is gonna get it, its this guy, i still don't think he realizes we're messing with him...
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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 07:51 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by littlegreenb18 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">turn on the car, hold your ear to the valve cover, and hold the throttle at wot and hold it there for about 5 minutes, if you hear a loud pop, its broken</TD></TR></TABLE>

Dont do that...
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