I recently blew my second d-series due to rod bearings and old age. Now i have decided i want to build the baddest, most bullet proof d-series around. Pretty much everything else on my hatch is finished, just need to get the engine setup in it. I'm going to need alot of suggestions from you all on what i will be needing. I have a few ideas but want to hear from you guys. Keep in mind that this is going to be a street car. Here is what i think ill be looking at. I'll keep it updated if i change anything.

SETUP:
-laskey racing "race engine" (cp pistons, pauter rods, benson sleeves, etc.)
-portflow head, fully built and ported, valves, retainers, springs, and zex 59300 cam
-edelbrock intake manifold
-ramhorn or topmount manifold?
-tial wastegate
-3" kteller exhaust
-hondata intake manifold gasket
-all OEM honda gaskets
-ARP head studs
-aem fuel rail and b&m fpr?
-OBX LSD
-GM 3 bar map sensor
-RC 880's or 1000cc peak and hold?
-axles?
-clutch?
-turbo?
-intercooler?
-bov?
-engine management?
-best street tires, slicks?

QUESTIONS:
1) What IS the highest horsepower d-series?? I'm thinking ill probably be wanting around 450-500whp to start with.
2) Should i get a obx lsd? Is it very hard to install? I'm a pretty good mechanic, but ive never cracked a tranny open before
3) Will stock axles work or should i upgrade? If so what kind?
4) Right now i have a RFL bov. What BOV do you guys suggest?
5) What turbo should i get? I want to have less lag as possible but still reach my goals easily.
6) What clutch do you guys suggest?
7) Will the stock igniton be okay? right now it has a msd coil and that's it.
8) Right now i have a Greddy frount mount intercooler kit. Will this be okay to use on my new setup?
9) What engine management should i go with? i want one of the best tuners to tune this (i.e. mase, superdave, etc)
10) will 22x8 M&H slicks and lenso's be okay? right now im lowered 2.5" Will these rub any? or will i have to get some new springs to raise it up?
11) Would it be better to go full 3" exhaust or just open downpipe? open dumptube or not? muffler?
12) What size tial wastegate would be best? 38mm work?
13) Should i get RC peak and hold 650's or 750's?
14) Which manifold should i get?
15) Right now i have a turbosmart MBC, will this be okay and also what size wastegate spring am i looking at?
16) Will eagle rods be okay or should i just get pauters?
17) Will my walbro 255 be fine?

here is the car..




Modified by mike93boost at 1:39 PM 5/29/2006

 

Step one...

Get a b-series

sorry... i just had to once i read the thread title.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4rc-fed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Step one...

Get a b-series

sorry... i just had to once i read the thread title.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i really dont want to hear any b-series crap. i hear enough of it on a daily basis. i WILL NOT go b-series, period, end of story.

 

&lt;3 &lt;3

Single slam love.

 

come on guys, i really would like to hear your suggestions and answers. thank you!

 

honestly, people will just browse over your questions too fast.

make new threads dividing the questions into smaller parts. you'll get a better response.

i know its hard to deal with at times, but dont let the typical honda-tech browser upset you.

stick with the D, and just do it right the first time. dont cut corners.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Spec R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">honestly, people will just browse over your questions too fast.

make new threads dividing the questions into smaller parts. you'll get a better response.

i know its hard to deal with at times, but dont let the typical honda-tech browser upset you.

stick with the D, and just do it right the first time. dont cut corners.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yup, probably will have to do that but thought it would be more organized to do this..

 

ok if you dont wanna go B. then go K. end of discussion

 

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SETUP:
-laskey racing "race engine" (cp pistons, pauter rods, benson sleeves, etc.)
-portflow head, fully built and ported, valves, retainers, springs, and zex 59300 cam
-edelbrock intake manifold
-ramhorn or topmount manifold?
-tial wastegate
-3" kteller exhaust
-hondata intake manifold gasket
-all OEM honda gaskets
-ARP head studs
-aem fuel rail and b&m fpr
-OBX LSD
-GM 3 bar map sensor
-RC 650's or 750's peak and hold
-axles?
-clutch?
-turbo?
-intercooler?
-bov?
-engine management?
-slicks?


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If your serious about actually living up to that claim of "baddest d-series", I would loose that OBX for a quaife, and step those injectors up to at least 1000s. I don't know how many d's you've seen, but it would take quite a bit to make the "baddest" around.

 

You could actually get the baddest D serie around but you will have to shell out a bunch of dollars...

what you think about a Stroked D16z6, with Custom rod's from your fav manufacturer, then get a Gt35R at least, go with a top mount. the Greddy FMIC will do fine for a while... your head setup look fine, I still suggest Earl build the block hes one of the very best, still racing on my Laskey B16 for two year without a rebuild( long story short ) OBX is some pimp **** scrap that thing.. get a quaif of a Kaaz...

hope this help.
jp

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4rc-fed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Step one...

Get a b-series

sorry... i just had to once i read the thread title.</TD></TR></TABLE>

This is sad but true. Also the route I ended up going.

 

the obx diff is perfectly fine....plenty of ppl are making a fuckton of power on them with no issues


but...there's been a few 400+whp d's around...it's not hard, takes same thought process as a b-series.

all the normal stuff (manifold, injectors, axles, etc..etc..) just do what the b guys do...but turbo wise, you might want to go more realistically than most ppl on here do. get the goal you want in mind...and then call up PTE or ITS or Turbonetics...and talk to them, they'll give you a straight answer.

 

not much help with the questions so far..

im keeping the obx lsd on there.

it doesnt HAVE to be THE baddest d series in the world. but i want between 450-500whp. so help me out guys!

 

im thinking im going to have to goto a foregin forum such as turbod16.com but i really dont want to.. most of you guys on here are b-series ****'s. who gives a **** as long as it makes the power??

 

Its so easy to hit that power level on a twin cam motor, I cant see why doing it to a D is worth it.???

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mike93boost &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im thinking im going to have to goto a foregin forum such as turbod16.com but i really dont want to.. most of you guys on here are b-series ****'s. who gives a **** as long as it makes the power??</TD></TR></TABLE>

come on over! turbod16.com is all about the under dog single slamers.

to toss some stuff out there. youll need AT LEAST 750's to support that kind of power, although id go bigger. turbo wise a gt35r will like those goals the most, you just steping out side of the gt30r range.

also depending on your budget, you will likely have more issues with your tranny and axles than the motor. look into the B2D kit that competition clutches is doing. its a kit to run a b-series tranny and axles, there is more support for them.

 

We had a customer come in about 2 weeks ago with a built d. He had sleeves, piston, rods........and he made 424whp on 27psi on stock ignition. Not only that he had a stock intake manifold. He had a ramhorn manifold and an sc50. Im pretty sure if you went with a gt3076r or 35r you will definitely hit your goals. As for some or your part ?'s I'll try to address a few: I would go with a 44mm gate cuz we've been having creep problems with 38's at high boost, def get 1000cc injectors, and lastly you are going to have to (obivously) sacrifice mid range if you go with a large plenum short runner intake manifold but it will def help you make more power up top......hope some of this help. Good luck
I love the D
Ryan

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mike93boost &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

QUESTIONS:

2) Should i get a obx lsd? Is it very hard to install? I'm a pretty good mechanic, but ive never cracked a tranny open before I've heard both good and bad things about this LSD, in the end it's up to you if you wanna give it a try.
3) Will stock axles work or should i upgrade? If so what kind?

http://www.driveshaftshop.com/HONDAPAGE.ivnu

4) Right now i have a RFL bov. What BOV do you guys suggest?
If you like the sound of it then keep it, it won't affect your power output in the end no matter what bov you go with.
5) What turbo should i get? I want to have less lag as possible but still reach my goals easily.
GT30/35R

7) Will the stock igniton be okay? right now it has a msd coil and that's it.
I would really head over to turbod16.com or d-series.org to find an answer to this question.
8) Right now i have a Greddy frount mount intercooler kit. Will this be okay to use on my new setup?
Any idea what HP it is rated to?
9) What engine management should i go with? i want one of the best tuners to tune this (i.e. mase, superdave, etc)
NePtUne, Crome, Hondata, AEM, you choose.
10) will 22x8 M&H slicks and lenso's be okay? right now im lowered 2.5" Will these rub any? or will i have to get some new springs to raise it up? turbod16.com/d-series.org
11) Would it be better to go full 3" exhaust or just open downpipe? open dumptube or not? muffler? You may make more power open DP but it's up to you if you wanna **** everybody off that lives near you. It is how my car is now and I'm getting a new exhaust/DP asap
12) What size tial wastegate would be best? 38mm work?
Should be fine

13) Should i get RC peak and hold 650's or 750's?
If you really wanna push some power I would get some 1000cc injectors so it gives you room in the future if you deceide to do a high power race gas tune or something
14) Which manifold should i get?
Good question since many companys seem to be on hold/booked up. Don't know what to tell ya.
15) Right now i have a turbosmart MBC, will this be okay and also what size wastegate spring am i looking at? I'd sell that one on ebay and try and get the dual stage one. Since you're gonna be putting down alot of power it would be a good idea to run a little less boost through 1st and 2nd cause you'll just spin your *** off. Once your finished with those gears then hit the switch and hello full boost.
16) Will eagle rods be okay or should i just get pauters?
Eagles and Baddest d-series should be in the same sentence get some pauters

here is the car..


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I tried to answer what I could

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Teglove2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">We had a customer come in about 2 weeks ago with a built d. He had sleeves, piston, rods........and he made 424whp on 27psi on stock ignition. Not only that he had a stock intake manifold. He had a ramhorn manifold and an sc50. Im pretty sure if you went with a gt3076r or 35r you will definitely hit your goals. As for some or your part ?'s I'll try to address a few: I would go with a 44mm gate cuz we've been having creep problems with 38's at high boost, def get 1000cc injectors, and lastly you are going to have to (obivously) sacrifice mid range if you go with a large plenum short runner intake manifold but it will def help you make more power up top......hope some of this help. Good luck
I love the D
Ryan</TD></TR></TABLE>

thanks for the help guys.

the edelbrock intake for the d-series doesnt have short runners like the b-series though..but youre saying i may be good with the stock intake manifold? what about the throttlebody?

what are 750's good up to?

and lets just say i want to make between 400-450whp then what turbo would be the best?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AbitAvenger &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I tried to answer what I could</TD></TR></TABLE>

but is the RFL good for holding high psi is what i meant..

 

400-450, a gt30r would do just fine. 750's will support that as well. with high boost numbers make sure to pick a FPR that has a 1:1 ratio this help fueling under heavy amounts of boost.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FactionR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">400-450, a gt30r would do just fine. 750's will support that as well. with high boost numbers make sure to pick a FPR that has a 1:1 ratio this help fueling under heavy amounts of boost.</TD></TR></TABLE>

will a b&m be fine at 40psi or should i get a aermotive?

 

i am in the same range as you for d-series power, i would defiantely bore out the motor and try and get a little more displacement to help spool. Also get some 880or 1000cc injectors 750's might max out and that isnt fun.

Also look into meth/water injection if you want some high numbers on pump, it can help a whole lot

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Soccerking3000 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i am in the same range as you for d-series power, i would defiantely bore out the motor and try and get a little more displacement to help spool. Also get some 880or 1000cc injectors 750's might max out and that isnt fun.

Also look into meth/water injection if you want some high numbers on pump, it can help a whole lot </TD></TR></TABLE>

well im getting a laskey built engine so i dont know if they do all that.

not looking to do meth/water injection. but will some 111 leaded tracktek fuel be fine to ride around on the street with? are there any problems associated with running race fuel that i should know of? walbro 255 be fine?

 

i have seen the walbro make power in the high 500's so i think you're gunna be fine, i use one as well, as for running 111 octane all the time i dont think it would be bad, but then again i could eb wrong lol.

As for having the engine built by them, I would think they would ask what bore you'd want...