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Old Apr 13, 2002 | 01:27 PM
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Default Impact gun too weak for my teg?????????

Ok, the 94 gsr suspension bolts are too tight for my electric impact gun....wtf. Isnt electric impact guns more powerful than air compressed ones? I really dont want to have to pay a shop to lower my car. Any suggestions on how to loosen a bolt? I tried liqued wrench, wd40 and the bolt still refuses to budge.
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Old Apr 13, 2002 | 01:29 PM
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which bolt?

I have never had a bolt that I couldn't take off with a ratchet.

If you are talking about the top nut that holds the pillowball to the shaft, I dont think an electric impact gun has the rpms to loosen that bolt.

so if that is the bolt that you are having trouble with, use the old school allen wrench and wrench method.
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Old Apr 13, 2002 | 01:40 PM
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the bolt that holds the lca and the shock fork
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Old Apr 13, 2002 | 01:41 PM
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are you loosening the bolt or the nut?
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Old Apr 13, 2002 | 01:42 PM
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i tried both
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Old Apr 13, 2002 | 01:47 PM
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haha i took my lca off to do my swap my friends impact gun tore it right off soak it in wd40 overnight and if you can
find somthing called tri-flow
works 1000 times better than wd40.
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Old Apr 13, 2002 | 01:51 PM
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I think you would be better off just taking a breaker bar to it. Try not to use any extensions with the socket if you can. Then just put a steady force on the bar. If that doesn't work, hit the bar with a hammer, and if that doesn't work, put a strong pipe on the breaker bar to get more leverage.

I have never heard of those bolts freezing or galling.

Instead of wd40 or Tri-flow(which is a teflon based lubricant so I dont know how it would have penetrating powers) try using some Liquid wrench.
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Old Apr 13, 2002 | 01:53 PM
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thank you ill look for triflow. Where do they sell it? Kragens?
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Old Apr 13, 2002 | 05:02 PM
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My gun can take most bolts of too, but sometimes some bolts wont come off. I agree and suggest also a breaker bar, I use a pipe about 3 ft long put it on the end of a combo and turn slowly making sure the bolt turns so I dont snap it off. Works real good and so far havent had a problem.
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Old Apr 13, 2002 | 05:11 PM
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I'm pretty sure air guns are stronger than electric guns. Either way, there have been many bolts I couldn't get off with my 450 ft-lb impact wrench. What I do then is either heat the surrounding metal with a torch, or use a breaker bar. I heard if you use a hammer on a breaker bar, you won't torque off the head as often....

I dont think an electric impact gun has the rpms to loosen that bolt.
Rpm's don't matter until the bolt is actually loose...you need torque...
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Old Apr 14, 2002 | 03:32 AM
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How do you guys get the ones in the rear LCAs out with out shearing them. I have sheared a total of ALL 6 on my Ek, yes all 6 on the lca's. I had to sawzall out the damn things and pull out the bolt stubs. It sucks.
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Old Apr 14, 2002 | 11:09 AM
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in cali we are lucky, we dont have that rear lca bolt freezing problem. At least I have never seen it.
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Old Apr 14, 2002 | 11:11 AM
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Rpm's don't matter until the bolt is actually loose...you need torque...
When I mean rpm's I am referring to how fast you can apply that torque.

A good are gun is like tak-tak-tak-tak-tak-tak-tak

and good electric gun is like tak---tak---tak---tak---tak

know what I mean, the air gun has more rpms, so it can hit the bolt with full torque quicker and more often and usually does a better job of breaking stuff loose because of it.
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Old Apr 14, 2002 | 11:47 AM
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A good are gun is like tak-tak-tak-tak-tak-tak-tak

and good electric gun is like tak---tak---tak---tak---tak
Ahhh, I see what you're saying.....

Ej6 Dx, I sheared about that amount, too. I hear using a hammer works, but I've never tried it. I think up here where it snows, we're just screwed.
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Old Apr 14, 2002 | 02:09 PM
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I also have broken the bolts in the upper control arms in the rear. Thank god for a sawzall. That is all I can say.
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Old Apr 14, 2002 | 07:58 PM
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I also have broken the bolts in the upper control arms in the rear. Thank god for a sawzall. That is all I can say.
So any reciprocating saw will work? or is Sawzall special? My step dad seems to think the parts are made of hardened steel, and it wont cut through. Im sure I can just buy him a new blade if it doesnt cut. So it does cut no problemo?
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Old Apr 14, 2002 | 08:35 PM
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pay a shop to do it, more than likely they will **** something up and they will have to fix it

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Old Apr 14, 2002 | 09:00 PM
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pay a shop to do it, more than likely they will **** something up and they will have to fix it
lol

i just feel so "ameture" bringing my car to a shop and paying $50-80 for lowering my car
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Old Apr 15, 2002 | 02:45 AM
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mine is just a reciprocating saw. I just say sawzall. I do use the sawzall brand metal blades though. It cuts. I have probably had to cut 15 or so over the years. And paying a shop is not an option. Around here it is $200 to lower a car.
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Old Apr 15, 2002 | 04:46 AM
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How do you guys get the ones in the rear LCAs out with out shearing them. I have sheared a total of ALL 6 on my Ek, yes all 6 on the lca's. I had to sawzall out the damn things and pull out the bolt stubs. It sucks.
It sure does! I had to cut out the bushings on 4 bolts on the rear LCS on my 92 hatch. An entire weekend of hard work. On East Coast cars i have never heard of the rear bolts NOT rusting solid.

Mike
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Old Apr 15, 2002 | 06:26 AM
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One of my boys was doing a clutch install and that bolt broke off in his hands. The *** that did his spring / shocks didn't know what a tq. wrench was.
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Old Apr 15, 2002 | 07:48 AM
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you will break the head of the bolt right off. its in there for lift only 3 things you can do
1.remove the whole LCA and dont remove the shock bolt
2.snap the head off and get a ES bushing kit for the LCA
3.snap the head off and get a honda replacment bushing (pain in a$$ to replace press needed)
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Old Apr 15, 2002 | 03:34 PM
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I ran into the same problem, so I lowered the front and then had a shop cut out the bolts in the back and install new ones. After the new bolts were installed I went back home and installed the rear springs. 94 GSR.
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