Comments and advice needed.

 

It's not physically possible. The engine bay is too small and won't fit the big honkin h22. You have to bang and cut so much crap just to put it into an EF to make it fit. Go with a b-series if you want to go that route (although handling will be extremely comprimised). Just a b16 in a 1500 lb car will be extremely fast. I had a stock 85 crx si and it was pretty fast already. Although if I were you, I'd just go with a usdm zc motor from an 87 integra and mod that motor.

 

H22s aren't that great of motors anyway, just pick up a 88+ shell and a b-series.

 

I think HASport came out with that old of a chassi H mount...if not, custom. Unlike everyone here thinks, H can make just as much jam as a B with just the same amount of work, with higher torque numbers.

Use an adapter plate H2B and you can use a B series tranny. I know theres a kit for B out there, use there tranny mounts and you will only need to fab one for the engine.

Personally I think the chassis in too old to hold an H. It's alot more weight on the front end, so get some work done if need be, like good ball joints and bushings. The torque of the H will damage alot of the weak crap that's in there. H weighs only 100-150lbs more then a B series, either way it's gonna add weight, but power.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ludesrv &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think HASport came out with that old of a chassi H mount...if not, custom. Unlike everyone here thinks, H can make just as much jam as a B with just the same amount of work, with higher torque numbers.

Use an adapter plate H2B and you can use a B series tranny. I know theres a kit for B out there, use there tranny mounts and you will only need to fab one for the engine.

Personally I think the chassis in too old to hold an H. It's alot more weight on the front end, so get some work done if need be, like good ball joints and bushings. The torque of the H will damage alot of the weak crap that's in there. H weighs only 100-150lbs more then a B series, either way it's gonna add weight, but power. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Did you not read my post??? It doesn't matter if it's just as good as a b series motor. IT WON'T FIT!

 

You have tried it? You have an 87 shell and tried to stick an H22 in it? If you have ever seen an H outside a prelude they aren't much bigger then B, the simply stand taller. You could lean the H forward to it sits straight and it would fit in with a B series tranny, but then it would require 100% custom mounts.

A good example, 2point2 fit an H22 with no clearance issue by standing it upwards. Looks odd, but works.

 

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Well put.

 

But why go through all that trouble when he could get equal performance if not better by getting, lets say a GSR with bolt ons, which he can afford to do if he can afford an h22...

 

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Exactly and in the 1800lbs 1g it would even fit. Tight but it would fit.

 

Bah, don't listen to them. They are H22 haters, it's the second thread today they kill with there hate.

He hates the H but loves the K, it's just as hard of an engine to squeeze into Hondas.

 

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Did you not read my post??? It doesn't matter if it's just as good as a b series motor. IT WON'T FIT!</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Wow that thing MUST be a rocket!

All he did was sit it upwards and made custom mounts by the look of it.

'Ehh...it's impossible cause I hate the H and I say it's impossible.'

 

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Granted, but honestly, it's not worth all the work that would go into putting it in. Like I said before, he could spend the money he would for all that and put a GSR or even a ITR motor in with bolt ons and make more power and be faster.

 

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Granted, but honestly, it's not worth all the work that would go into putting it in. Like I said before, he could spend the money he would for all that and put a GSR or even a ITR motor in with bolt ons and make more power and be faster.</TD></TR></TABLE>
BUT I THOUGHT YOU SAID IT WAS NOT POSSIBLE!!!! now go ahead change your story

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ludesrv &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wow that thing MUST be a rocket!

All he did was sit it upwards and made custom mounts by the look of it.

'Ehh...it's impossible cause I hate the H and I say it's impossible.'</TD></TR></TABLE>

I don't hate the H22, it is an awesome motor when it's logical. In this case it isn't. Put an H22 in an eg then it's logical. Why go out of the way for something way more difficult with minimal benefits, if any, over other options.

 

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I don't hate the H22, it is an awesome motor when it's logical. In this case it isn't. Put an H22 in an eg then it's logical. Why go out of the way for something way more difficult with minimal benefits, if any, over other options.</TD></TR></TABLE>
to be different or are you o.k with doing what everyone else is doing?

 

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I've always heard it was impossible. It's not like this is the first time this has been brought up. So, I was wrong. It gets to the point to where if a person has money and the means they'll find a way, obviously.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ludesrv &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Bah, don't listen to them. They are H22 haters, it's the second thread today they kill with there hate.

He hates the H but loves the K, it's just as hard of an engine to squeeze into Hondas.</TD></TR></TABLE>

People buy H22 cause they are cheap not good. K series motors are quite a bit more narrow actually. They are new technology, worthy of the work, great aftermarket support, lighter, and on top of all of that, they are still developing parts for them today.

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Dang thats a tight fit. Thats a whole lot of weight in the front of that car. I once put a 1g teg motor with a Turbo into a 1g crx, that was a tight fit, H22 no thank you. probally really easy to do general maintence in a 1g crx chassis. IT appears it can be done though. If cheap straightline performance is what you want go for it.

 

i would like to see a toaly rad sohc VTEC swap w/ greddy turbo kit in one...im all about seeing california legal stuff

 

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I saw a SOHC VTEC swapped 1g earlier this week it was real clean. IMO that would be a killer setup in the light 1g chassis.

 

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I saw a SOHC VTEC swapped 1g earlier this week it was real clean. IMO that would be a killer setup in the light 1g chassis. </TD></TR></TABLE>


pix?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRXBart &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Dang thats a tight fit. Thats a whole lot of weight in the front of that car. I once put a 1g teg motor with a Turbo into a 1g crx, that was a tight fit, H22 no thank you. probally really easy to do general maintence in a 1g crx chassis. IT appears it can be done though. If cheap straightline performance is what you want go for it. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Man, your the death of H eh. You can put an H into any car, once it's moving it's hardly noticeable without power steering. Concidering it's only a 100lbs over a B series, it wouldn't be a huge difference.

I'd rock an H in anything, it's a different swap, an unloved engine and in this case a classic car.

 

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you notice how careful he is not to post an under the car clearence shot?

ls+boost would be about the same amount of money, and have much better top end.

but if being different is all you care about and not actual final output, then rock out with you **** out.

you just cant ever lower the car, and keep 3 extra oil pans in your garage at all times in case you hit a pebble.

put an s2000 motor in there then. then youll show everyone how different you are.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by doublethink &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you notice how careful he is not to post an under the car clearence shot?

ls+boost would be about the same amount of money, and have much better top end.

but if being different is all you care about and not actual final output, then rock out with you **** out.

you just cant ever lower the car, and keep 3 extra oil pans in your garage at all times in case you hit a pebble.

put an s2000 motor in there then. then youll show everyone how different you are.</TD></TR></TABLE>


sadly i saw some retard put an f20c into a EG and made it RWD. talk about the largest waste of money i have ever seen. all that extra weight of converting it to RWD really slowed that POS down.

 

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Man, your the death of H eh. You can put an H into any car, once it's moving it's hardly noticeable without power steering. Concidering it's only a 100lbs over a B series, it wouldn't be a huge difference.

I'd rock an H in anything, it's a different swap, an unloved engine and in this case a classic car.</TD></TR></TABLE>

100lbs is allot in a 1800lbs car. I've always wanted to put an H22 in an Accord wagon, just for a grocery getter, parts hauler. I will do it someday, but it is not an engine I would use in a car, that I would consider a performance platform. it is too havey, and doesn't have enough aftermarket support.

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you notice how careful he is not to post an under the car clearence shot?

ls+boost would be about the same amount of money, and have much better top end.

but if being different is all you care about and not actual final output, then rock out with you **** out.

you just cant ever lower the car, and keep 3 extra oil pans in your garage at all times in case you hit a pebble.

put an s2000 motor in there then. then youll show everyone how different you are.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Very good points. It seems whenever I do bring up H22 swaps with my friends out in AZ that have to deal with that type of stuff, they are always talking about how they eat axles in lowered civics. That car is probally no exception.