Del Sol seats in a 88-89 EF Hatch write-up...ghetto welded but effective. Lots of pix!
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Well I got some 88-89 seats pans after searching and searching at local junkyards. But i also came across a Del Sol that still had its seats. $40 later....
Today I decided to tackle the challenge of putting this Del Sols seats in my 88 Civic HB. After test fitting the Del Sols I noticed they were about 2-3 inches off on the outter rails (near the door), and the rear of the outter to high, and on the inside rails (nearest e-brake) the back one was off about 2-3 inches long.
The only hole to line up was the front inner. But after test fitting it appeared the seat would be hugging the ebrake so I decided to move it over slightly more towards the doors.
Here is what the Del Sol looks like on the inner side:

Here is the outter side with cover:

Here is the outter side without cover:

Here is the Del Sol seat rails:

Here is the Del Sol seat pan:

Here is the 88-89 Civic HB seat pan, the 2 top mounts will need to be spot welded off you can Cut them off but they may not be long enough:

Here is one of the mounts taken off:

Here is the Civic mounts mounted to the Civic seat rail on the outter side:

Here is the Del Sol Seat pan with inner rail still attached, the Civic seat rails are under but not mounted/welded to the seat pan:

Notice the Del Sol inner rail is not lined up. These is due to the fact i didn't want it hugging the e-brake. The Civic outter rail/mount is still not attached:

These is the Del Sol inner rear rail notice how off it is. (where the end of the wrench is where it needs to be):

***A quick note. Even though the follow pics don't show it. I left the Seat rail on as long as I could until i needed to weld different angles that needed me to take it off.***
Here is the outter front mount welded on:

Here is the outter rear mount welded on.

This is the inner rear rail cut off (about 2-3 inches):

This is the inner rear rail mount hole welded on:

This is the inner front rail, it was cut off and then flipped so it would angle towards the whole:

This is an overall look with Civic mounts welded on Del Sol seat pans, after a fresh paint job:

Previous owner decided to take the thread/nut with him so I had to weld one in:

Test fit to make sure all the holes were still lined up correctly:

The rears (just a comment the carpet was jacked before I got it plan to replace in the future):

Completed with cushioning back on:

Finished Driver Side (don't mind the mess):

Closing comments. I like it alot. But if i were able to find some Civic SI seats I'd snag on those. These took all day to get in. But I believe i got it down now and could do some up a lot quicker!!
Also, I'm not a fantastic welder but they held up fine.
Hope this helps some of you 88-89 Civic HBs
-Shane
Today I decided to tackle the challenge of putting this Del Sols seats in my 88 Civic HB. After test fitting the Del Sols I noticed they were about 2-3 inches off on the outter rails (near the door), and the rear of the outter to high, and on the inside rails (nearest e-brake) the back one was off about 2-3 inches long.
The only hole to line up was the front inner. But after test fitting it appeared the seat would be hugging the ebrake so I decided to move it over slightly more towards the doors.
Here is what the Del Sol looks like on the inner side:

Here is the outter side with cover:

Here is the outter side without cover:

Here is the Del Sol seat rails:

Here is the Del Sol seat pan:

Here is the 88-89 Civic HB seat pan, the 2 top mounts will need to be spot welded off you can Cut them off but they may not be long enough:

Here is one of the mounts taken off:

Here is the Civic mounts mounted to the Civic seat rail on the outter side:

Here is the Del Sol Seat pan with inner rail still attached, the Civic seat rails are under but not mounted/welded to the seat pan:

Notice the Del Sol inner rail is not lined up. These is due to the fact i didn't want it hugging the e-brake. The Civic outter rail/mount is still not attached:

These is the Del Sol inner rear rail notice how off it is. (where the end of the wrench is where it needs to be):

***A quick note. Even though the follow pics don't show it. I left the Seat rail on as long as I could until i needed to weld different angles that needed me to take it off.***
Here is the outter front mount welded on:

Here is the outter rear mount welded on.

This is the inner rear rail cut off (about 2-3 inches):

This is the inner rear rail mount hole welded on:

This is the inner front rail, it was cut off and then flipped so it would angle towards the whole:

This is an overall look with Civic mounts welded on Del Sol seat pans, after a fresh paint job:

Previous owner decided to take the thread/nut with him so I had to weld one in:

Test fit to make sure all the holes were still lined up correctly:

The rears (just a comment the carpet was jacked before I got it plan to replace in the future):

Completed with cushioning back on:

Finished Driver Side (don't mind the mess):

Closing comments. I like it alot. But if i were able to find some Civic SI seats I'd snag on those. These took all day to get in. But I believe i got it down now and could do some up a lot quicker!!
Also, I'm not a fantastic welder but they held up fine.
Hope this helps some of you 88-89 Civic HBs

-Shane
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by STREETWERKZ »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why didnt you grind the surface of the materials before welding? </TD></TR></TABLE>
That was the first thing I noticed as well.
Welding is done with metal. Paint, rust and dirt are not metal. Unclean surfaces will result in a porous or brittle weld.
That was the first thing I noticed as well.
Welding is done with metal. Paint, rust and dirt are not metal. Unclean surfaces will result in a porous or brittle weld.
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Yes like I stated, I'm not the best welder in the world nor am I trying to be. I did however try to prep the surface as much as possible. I was unable to bring all surfaces down to bare metal.
If i were to do it again I would definately make sure it is first.
If i were to do it again I would definately make sure it is first.
I'm going to say some of the same things that I said to the other guy with Del Sol seats...
You've made yourself something that cannot even survive a minor accident. You will likely die. Sorry to say that, cause the seat looks cool.
You've made yourself something that cannot even survive a minor accident. You will likely die. Sorry to say that, cause the seat looks cool.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by alphajesse »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm going to say some of the same things that I said to the other guy with Del Sol seats...
You've made yourself something that cannot even survive a minor accident. You will likely die. Sorry to say that, cause the seat looks cool. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Thanks for the input. However as state I did try to clean up the surface as best as possible. If you were doing this I'd recommend to clean the surface before practise mounting. So you can just weld it while you are test fitting.
I didn't do that.
I did however kick, and jump around like crazy to see if these would budge.....
guess what they didn't!!
I'm pretty positive in such a little vehicle I will most likely die anyways if its a major accident.
I mean since i"ve been t-boned in a 90 Toyota Tercel coupe (me going 5 mph) by a 98 Jeep Cherokke going 40-50 mph.

This is a how-to. Yes I'm not the best welder but my welds are holding to all those haters. I do plan to check them at the end of the month since i did put a few welds on paint.
Thanks though,
Shane
You've made yourself something that cannot even survive a minor accident. You will likely die. Sorry to say that, cause the seat looks cool. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Thanks for the input. However as state I did try to clean up the surface as best as possible. If you were doing this I'd recommend to clean the surface before practise mounting. So you can just weld it while you are test fitting.
I didn't do that.
I did however kick, and jump around like crazy to see if these would budge.....
guess what they didn't!!
I'm pretty positive in such a little vehicle I will most likely die anyways if its a major accident.
I mean since i"ve been t-boned in a 90 Toyota Tercel coupe (me going 5 mph) by a 98 Jeep Cherokke going 40-50 mph.

This is a how-to. Yes I'm not the best welder but my welds are holding to all those haters. I do plan to check them at the end of the month since i did put a few welds on paint.
Thanks though,
Shane
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I did however kick, and jump around like crazy to see if these would budge.....
guess what they didn't!!
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Your body, and by extension, the seat experience 20-30g of acceleration during a collision. You will not be able to simulate that by bouncing around in the seat, no matter how violently you did it.
I did however kick, and jump around like crazy to see if these would budge.....
guess what they didn't!!
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Your body, and by extension, the seat experience 20-30g of acceleration during a collision. You will not be able to simulate that by bouncing around in the seat, no matter how violently you did it.
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