Anyone know if they use the same config?

 

Was wondering the same thing ...

edit ... from looking at WC practice times, I don't think they use the chicane.

 

I've never seen a pro event use the chicane.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jlucas &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I've never seen a pro event use the chicane.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The last couple SCCA Runoffs didn't use the chicane also.

 

Do we know what config will we be running at Nationals?

Also, Which one is the chicane? Their track map doesn't tell you much.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Andrie Hartanto &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Do we know what config will we be running at Nationals?

Also, Which one is the chicane? Their track map doesn't tell you much.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The chicane is on the short straight, after turn 1 before the keyhole-

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Andrie Hartanto &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Do we know what config will we be running at Nationals?

Also, Which one is the chicane? Their track map doesn't tell you much.</TD></TR></TABLE>

not sure that a definitive statement means much but it will be the chicane per this:

http://www.nasaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=8750

tom

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Andrie Hartanto &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Do we know what config will we be running at Nationals?

Also, Which one is the chicane? Their track map doesn't tell you much.</TD></TR></TABLE>

It is the offset to the right, nearest the South Parking, seen here http://www.midohio.com/track.aspx (click on Printable map)

Keith, who ran the East-versus-West in 2004, on the "pro" course...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tom91ita &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">not sure that a definitive statement means much but it will be the chicane per this:
http://www.nasaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=8750</TD></TR></TABLE>
The Championships as well as the Regional events will be running the chicane.
--Dave Royce
NASA Midwest & OH/IN Director

I guess that pretty well clears it up. Jeremy L., you got a clean map you can post?

 

What kind of lap difference is it between the two?

Also, is the chicane similar like Watkins Glen's bus stop or not so much a chicane? Finally, anyone got a lap around the track with the chicane? Preferably with some data like speed, and G-loading. Will pay top dollar for it

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Andrie Hartanto &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What kind of lap difference is it between the two?

Also, is the chicane similar like Watkins Glen's bus stop or not so much a chicane? Finally, anyone got a lap around the track with the chicane? Preferably with some data like speed, and G-loading. Will pay top dollar for it </TD></TR></TABLE>


i'm guessing 4-5 second difference....i have video....might post it if the price were right i guess.....

 

4-5 seconds is a lot. How bad is the chicane? From the track map it looks like about 2-3 sec at most.

 

Fancy map linked above has it.
http://www.midohio.com/track.aspx

Chicane is T2 & T3. 1.5-2.5 seconds depending on what type of car.

 

1-2 seconds tops, at least for the H5 crowd.

you'll take the right into it flat and then brake, likely downshift, hammer it briefly after you go left and then brake again for the long right hander to the back straight.

here is one of the first clips posted with the new pavement from someone in a bmw track event or some such thing.

http://www.charliegrafton.com/...e.wmv

tom

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jlucas &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Fancy map linked above has it.
http://www.midohio.com/track.aspx

Chicane is T2 & T3. 1.5-2.5 seconds depending on what type of car.
</TD></TR></TABLE>


i would dissagree....in an h1 car it you really need to brake 2 times....unless you want a handfull keeping the car straight for the 2nd brake zone...trust me...i tried it every way possible....

 

i apologize. never mind what i said/posted regarding using the chicane for all events.

i just went to look at registration for the july mid-o event and saw:

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07/07/2006 MO Ohio/Indiana Region
Event Code:
Track: MO -- Mid Ohio Sports Car Course
Event Type: HPDE Racing Officials Garage Transponder Rental Time Trial Instructor
Track URL: http://www.midohio.com/
Configuration: 2.25 Miles Pro Course
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at: https://www.nasaproracing.com/...d=318

i really do not know what track we are running. i guess the sups for the national race is the only safe bet.

tom

 

The chicane adds about 2-3 seconds, in my opinion. It's also one of my favorite parts of the track because if you know how to do it right, you can really eat up on people. I've only run the "pro course" once and found it quite boring. But, it certainly creates a big passing zone, making it better for TV.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tom91ita &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i apologize. never mind what i said/posted regarding using the chicane for all events.

i just went to look at registration for the july mid-o event and saw:


at: https://www.nasaproracing.com/...d=318

i really do not know what track we are running. i guess the sups for the national race is the only safe bet.

tom</TD></TR></TABLE>

You were correct the first time, Tom, we will be using the Chicane for ALL of our events this year, including the Championships in September.

As for the registration showing the Pro Course, that is another of those things that was set up by the old region management and still hasn't been fixed.

Regards,

Sam

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Andrie Hartanto &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is the chicane similar like Watkins Glen's bus stop or not so much a chicane?</TD></TR></TABLE>

It's not exactly the same as the Glen. For one thing, at the Glen, the bus stop comes in the middle of a long straight, so if you run the chicane, it means a much bigger time difference than if you don't; whereas, at Mid-Ohio, the chicane comes right before the keyhole (slow turn) anyway, and replaces what is otherwise a braking zone, so it doesn't slow you down as much. Also, the bus stop at the Glen takes you much further out from the flow of the track than the chicane at Mid-Ohio, which slows you down but just isn't as long a path as the bus stop.

They both slow you down, but I bet the bus stop at the Glen causes a bigger lap time difference than the chicane at Mid-Ohio...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's not exactly the same as the Glen. For one thing, at the Glen, the bus stop comes in the middle of a long straight, so if you run the chicane, it means a much bigger time difference than if you don't; whereas, at Mid-Ohio, the chicane comes right before the keyhole (slow turn) anyway, and replaces what is otherwise a braking zone, so it doesn't slow you down as much. Also, the bus stop at the Glen takes you much further out from the flow of the track than the chicane at Mid-Ohio, which slows you down but just isn't as long a path as the bus stop.

They both slow you down, but I bet the bus stop at the Glen causes a bigger lap time difference than the chicane at Mid-Ohio...</TD></TR></TABLE>

P.S. Another difference is that the bus stop at the Glen is located right at the fastest point on the track, and you need to brake HARD to turn in for the bus stop. By contrast, at Mid-Ohio, you're getting up some speed entering turn 2, but the little straight from turn 1 (which is a fairly fast turn) doesn't allow you to get up that much speed. As a result, unlike the Glen, you need little to no braking to turn into the chicane, and you're still carrying quite a bit of speed after turn-in. You need to brake, though, to turn back to the left for the middle of the chicane.

 

Could Ohio racers tell me what is the average temp at mid Ohio track during the national, please? and would Mansfield close enough to stay during the national?
Thanks

 

I don't know for sure but I want to say that Mid Ohio is around 15- 20 mins from mansfield. I just did a drving map on Yahoo and it said it was 12mins from Mansfield ( just the city not a certain spot) to lexington(not Mid Ohio). Maybe that will help you a little.

 

Yes, anybody can recommend a nice inexpensive hotel? An Internet connection is a plus.

Also, what are the rules about camping? Can we stay inside the trailer? Is shower facility near the paddock area?

 

I found this map of all the facilities http://www.midohio.com/track.aspx

For the camping rules go to http://www.midohio.com, then go to spectators, and then go down to camping. It won't let me copy and past the rules.

 

I saw the map, but it doesn't specify the tent area. I assume the RV and tent area is different?