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Old May 18, 2006 | 12:37 PM
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ok.. i have a b16a2 with b16b pistons an b16b head and b16b trans.... can i pu t a b18b1 b18c1 or b19c5 crank in it to make it a 1.8L and more like a c1/c5
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Old May 18, 2006 | 12:45 PM
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i thik clearances are different, but i may be wrong
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Old May 18, 2006 | 12:46 PM
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b19c5? lol. You should be able to because pretty much all b stuff is interchangeable. But that wont make it a 1.8L.
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Old May 18, 2006 | 12:47 PM
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But I could be wrong. More input please.
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Old May 18, 2006 | 12:54 PM
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u can not make it into a 1.8 without swapin a b18c5 block, or a b20 block to make it a 2.0.. but along with either one of these blocks you need blocks original crank as well hope that helps.. i have a b16a2 with ctr cams.. i want to swap the block with a b20 block or a 18c5 block ... dont know which to do!
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Old May 18, 2006 | 12:57 PM
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ok... so i will need a c5 botom end to make it a 1.8l i hear that you could switch the cranks out and change you displacment
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Old May 18, 2006 | 12:59 PM
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i highly doubt that bro.. you can not fit the b18c5 crank onto the 16a2 block.. i know that for a fact.. im pretty sure u can not.. so yes u would need a bottom end to change your displacment
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Old May 18, 2006 | 01:06 PM
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EG shell, JDM b16a w/CTR cams & t/b adds signifigantly more power, 10-15 more HP than stock GSR. . . but still about 10-15 less LBS/TQ
and thats stock no intake or exaust on my B16A. . .

JDM B16a 170HP
JDM B16b 185HP
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Old May 18, 2006 | 01:24 PM
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b18's are off da hook, but b16's are nothing to scoff at. . . im thinking next a thin B16b head gasket to bump compression 10.4(stock b16a) to 10.6. . . as a fully stock b16b has 10.8c/r, but i dont have the pistons . . . as for the CTR heads, they,re basically the sme except for the wilder cam and the stronger retainers for the valve train. . .
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Old May 18, 2006 | 01:26 PM
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b16b bein a civic type r .. right?? a head gasket will bump the compression from 10.4 to 10.6 now ur sayin b16 jdm or b16a2? .. what pistons do you need?
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Old May 18, 2006 | 01:29 PM
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yup, mines a JDM b16 w/JDM CTR parts except for the pistons. . .
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Old May 18, 2006 | 01:33 PM
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i have a b16a2.. i wanna stick a b20 in it.. somebody told me it be better then 18c5... do i have to do any other mods to this block? like the oil squirts and stuff? can i put ctr pistons into this b20 block?
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Old May 18, 2006 | 01:35 PM
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CTR is JDM B16b civic Type-R
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Old May 18, 2006 | 01:42 PM
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you can but you need custom built rods if you want to do something like this.
Just get a gsr block or do the ls vtec and you should be able to run your ctr piston with this any of this engines.
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Old May 18, 2006 | 01:48 PM
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CTR(higher compression) & B16a pistons are 81.5mm
CR-V pistons are 84mm. . . the b20 also has a longer stroke for more TQ since they have 4 wheel drive. . . the CR-V(B20 first gen CR-V) has really good potential as a turbo engine but otherwise the B18c5 is WAY better. . . its a Type-R performance engine
compared to the B20 which is a "small truck" engine.

compression for the B20(first gen CR-V) by the way is 8.8, which is why its good mostly for turbo
second gen CR-V has about 9.6c/r


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Old May 18, 2006 | 01:53 PM
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older, late 80's prelude b20 engines are the odd ball of the group because their parts arnt really interchangeable w/the rest of the "B-series" family. . . its an unusually tall engine. . . mounts are harder to get there may be scraping issues depending on the shell it's being swapped into. . . B20 w/b16 head equals lots of potential. . .


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Old May 18, 2006 | 01:59 PM
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this site explains the "B-series" family

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H...es%29
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Old May 18, 2006 | 02:05 PM
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81mm not 81.50
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Old May 18, 2006 | 02:10 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dheadcivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">b20 CR-V engines are the odd ball of the group because their parts arnt really interchangeable w/the rest of the "B-series" family(older b20's). . . its an unusually tall engine. . . mounts are harder to get there may be scraping issues depending on the shell it's being swapped into. . . B20 w/b16 head equals lots of potential. . .


Modified by dheadcivic at 3:07 PM 5/18/2006</TD></TR></TABLE>

Totally wrong.
The b20 has the same external demesions as a LS. Its basically an 84mm LS motor. Lots of parts are interchangeable with other B series.

Also there is a company(cant remember which) that makes special pistons so you can use LS crank and rods to stroke your b16.


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Old May 18, 2006 | 02:18 PM
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i changed it, youre right i meant the older B20's from the preludes late 80's engine
the modern B20(CR-V) is just like you said an LS w/84mm pistons. . .
wouldnt it make more sense to just put a B16 head on an LS or a B20 for that matter??
i'll dig up some info on the crank. . .


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Old May 18, 2006 | 02:24 PM
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another forum with some B16 LS bottom end info. . .

http://www.honda-acura.net/for...58543
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Old May 18, 2006 | 02:39 PM
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my engine. . . an undercover Type-R. . .
http://www.redbrick.dcu.ie/~bl...a.jpg
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Old May 19, 2006 | 06:07 AM
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wow thx all you realy helped out...
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Old May 19, 2006 | 08:13 AM
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There are b16 stroker kits that will make your b16 bigger but you cant use a b18 crank. The stroker kit comes with crank, rods, and pistons I believe.
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Old May 19, 2006 | 08:52 AM
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For the price it will cost to do all that, you mine as well get a GSR shortblock instead. Save you more time/headache.
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