now i know nothing about suspension other than that i like slammed as low as can go. so i have a crx now that the previous owner lowered and its 6 inches off the ground, and the ride is terrible, i know of course the answer to fix it is to raise it back up but i want it to be low. so i found ones on ebay, i know apc is sapose to be a good company, are these any good?
thanks, stephen
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...wItem

 

it will be low but still a ruff *** ride ur usually not gonna have a good ride unless u spend some big bucks so right now unless u got some money its looks or ride

 

I wouldn't go Ebayon sumthing as vital as suspension.

 

well u cant always dis on ebay... there is some good stuff that comes off of there, well now and then but i have a friend with ebay coilovers and he has had them 8 or 9 months now and they still look good....... but its your disison, like i said it can look good but will be a ruff *** ride

 

sadly those coilovers look pretty close to the ones i bought off ebay a while ago, but are a little bit different. (almost same price too)

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i agree with what he said. If you are willing to spend like $500-1000 on a good quality set of struts (shock and coilover combo) like koni's and such. then your ride wont be bad and it can still be slammed.

but if your willing to spend say $200 total (like i did) on your suspension, dont expect too much for your ride quality.

and 6 inches curb height is slammed as low as you can go? i only have like 2 inches (if that) of ground clearance (im not fully dropped). Hell i cant even put my car on a hoist/lift without having someone lift up on the fender so the arms can clear the rocker panels.

 

i probably can go lower, im not sure, im just affraid of the ride being even worse, and ive only had the car for about a month now so i have not gotten around to messing with the suspension yet, but i know its after market and adjustable, so ill have to mess with it a little this weekend maybe. also im not sure but i think i just got a sponsor with a company thats with tein, there good for suspension right? i know there expensive but with the sponsor ill get a discount.

 

hey man if you cant afford a CADILLAC ride confortability on your ride nothing else than getting the coil overs at ebay tahts how every body starts whether the ride is bad or not no matter what the car is going to be low but again like the other candidates are saying is your desicion or if not here goes an idea

tokiko shock with the coilover from ebay
nice ride with coilovers trust me

you are getting what you want your car on the low correct!!!!!!

 

APC=ALL PRODUCTS ARE CRAP

 

not worth it save up for better susupension, you will just have to replace it later for better anyway so save up and do it right or do it twice

 

i jus got some skunk2 coilovers from ebay and i got them in about one week and they work better then any kit i ever got

 

Any sleeve coilover will bounce your *** around and your girlfriends ***** will hurt, just save your money and buy a real coilover, or do the lowering springs. Even lowering springs are not as bouncy as sleeved coilovers, the spring rate is too soft. Go for ksport, they are cheaper than most coilovers and have a decent ride. I'm rocking the B&G S2 coilover and could'nt be happier, but they are expensive. http://www.modacar.com has a good selection of higher end coilovers. Again you get what you pay for, and in the end, just buy a nice set of coilovers

 

http://www.modacar.com/product...DACOI/

Here you go, here's the link to modacar, but ksport is lower price alturnative

 

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That is one of the most retarded statements I've ever heard. Threaded shockbody coilovers have been illegal for SCCA usage for years, and the best race cars in the country that compete in the SCCA series, use sleave type coil-overs. Most notable is the KONI Ground Control setup, that nearly everyone runs. The reason they are bouncing is lack of dampening not spring rate. Get a good quality set of GC, of S2's, and a nice set of adjustable struts, Konis, illuminas, AGXes, and so on. K-sports moight be nice, but KONI/GC is where it is at. I'm buying the SPS twin valve Konis, and GC for my newest suspension build up.

 

threaded body shocks are now allowed in IT.

 

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Hence:
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Threaded shockbody coilovers have been illegal for SCCA usage for years </TD></TR></TABLE>

Have been not currenty are.

 

it was just a clarification. doesnt change your point.

"had been" would have been the proper grammar.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRXBart &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That is one of the most retarded statements I've ever heard. Threaded shockbody coilovers have been illegal for SCCA usage for years, and the best race cars in the country that compete in the SCCA series, use sleave type coil-overs. Most notable is the KONI Ground Control setup, that nearly everyone runs. The reason they are bouncing is lack of dampening not spring rate. Get a good quality set of GC, of S2's, and a nice set of adjustable struts, Konis, illuminas, AGXes, and so on. K-sports moight be nice, but KONI/GC is where it is at. I'm buying the SPS twin valve Konis, and GC for my newest suspension build up.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Interesting, have you ever owned a real coilover system? Yes I know the koni/ground control is a decent combo, but that's because ground control makes the best springs peroid. Sounds like your talking out your ***, don't put products down that you've never used. I've used them all on my crx, sleeved coilovers suck(KYB, Arospeed), H&R lowering springs with koni, and now B&G s2, and the difference is night and day. And who cares about SCCA, the topic is street. Yes SCCA has certain rules, but not all of us are privelaged enough right now to have your rex/ef running in these fun events. So before you call someone out, answer the question posted above, that way you are somewhat useful

 

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the point CRXbart was making was not to dismiss sleeve coilover springs as you have. its the crappy generic, ebay, and skunk2 and omnipower quality springs that give the same stiff springs for every setup that offer horrible rides as you may have experienced.

ground control offers reasonable spring rates with their kits. thats what makes them different, along with several other key aspects.

the other point is that full setup coilovers dont make it better because they come "matched". its just not true really. who knows what "matched" means, and do you really trust a company that sells their product for $350 to really have "tuned" your car for your purpose as well as the guy next door's car?

simply put, using a quality shock, and a well thought out spring rate suitable for your application will perform just as well and probably even better than any turnkey system coming out of taiwan.

 

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simply put, using a quality shock, and a well thought out spring rate suitable for your application will perform just as well and probably even better than any turnkey system coming out of taiwan.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes thank you Tyson!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tyson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the point CRXbart was making was not to dismiss sleeve coilover springs as you have. its the crappy generic, ebay, and skunk2 and omnipower quality springs that give the same stiff springs for every setup that offer horrible rides as you may have experienced.

ground control offers reasonable spring rates with their kits. thats what makes them better, along with several other key aspects.

the other point is that full setup coilovers dont make it better because they come "matched". its just not true really. who knows what "matched" means, and do you really trust a company that sells their product for $350 to really have "tuned" your car for your purpose as well as the guy next door's car?

simply put, using a quality shock, and a well thought out spring rate suitable for your application will perform just as well and probably even better than any turnkey system coming out of taiwan.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's true, and I was'nt saying that all sleeve coilovers are junk, I just said all but ground control. It's just a personal preference in my mind, and for what they are used for. So yes I can see if you race SCCA, and full coilovers are illegal that's one thing, I was trying to say that if you don't get a good sleeve coilover, then your ride will suck, regardless of your shock choice!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mugencrxsir1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Any sleeve coilover will bounce your *** around and your girlfriends ***** will hurt, just save your money and buy a real coilover, or do the lowering springs. Even lowering springs are not as bouncy as sleeved coilovers, the spring rate is too soft. Go for ksport, they are cheaper than most coilovers and have a decent ride. I'm rocking the B&G S2 coilover and could'nt be happier, but they are expensive. http://www.modacar.com has a good selection of higher end coilovers. Again you get what you pay for, and in the end, just buy a nice set of coilovers </TD></TR></TABLE>

sorry. i must have missed where you singled out ground controls. i must have been lost in the *** and ****.

anyway, my general advice for most ppl is quite frankly to skip the coilovers. most ppl dont need the height adjustment. any off the shelf lowering spring kit will offer the drop and ride ppl will want given the wide range of products out there. personally, i think the key to a good ride is the shocks and maintaining the cars stock suspension (bushings).

ppl are just attracted to the $25 price of ebay coilovers. they dont realize theyre good for absolutely nothing but destroying your suspension.