Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000) EG/EH/EJ/EK/EM1 Discussion

d15z1 oil warmer?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 14, 2006 | 04:43 PM
  #1  
Bense's Avatar
Thread Starter
B*a*n*n*e*d
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 9,783
Likes: 47
From: Greenville, South Carolina
Default d15z1 oil warmer?

Yeah, yeah, I know that it's actually an oil cooler. But for the d15z1 fuel sipper engine, they call it an oil warmer? Now the d15z1 has all kinds of unique features that make it more efficicent, but how does this oil "warmer" help?

resting between the block and the oil filter, I stole this off of my d15z1 swap, and put it on my d16b5 (see sig)
Reply
Old May 14, 2006 | 04:56 PM
  #2  
Soccerking3000's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 6,281
Likes: 0
From: Catching Rivers on Fire TWICE
Default Re: d15z1 oil warmer? (Bense)

maybe to get the oil up to temperature faster allowing it become thinner and thus have less resistance? got me
Reply
Old May 14, 2006 | 04:57 PM
  #3  
schardbody's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 4,338
Likes: 2
From: Ladson, sc, US
Default

i think its because they built it to be boosted, and it makes it easier to tap into the coolant lines, LOL. just my $.02
Reply
Old May 14, 2006 | 06:22 PM
  #4  
TypeRobert's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 550
Likes: 0
From: boston, MA, USA
Default Re: (schardbody)

actually thats and oil COOLER
Reply
Old May 14, 2006 | 06:39 PM
  #5  
EG6_GUY's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 435
Likes: 0
From: United States
Default Re: (TypeRobert)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TypeRobert &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">actually thats and oil COOLER</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bense &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah, yeah, I know that it's actually an oil cooler. But for the d15z1 fuel sipper engine, they call it an oil warmer?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Bense, does this piece have plumbing to an external radiator? Or does coolant just flow straight in and out of that adapter?

Been thinking of putting one of those on the B16A.
Reply
Old May 14, 2006 | 06:53 PM
  #6  
schardbody's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 4,338
Likes: 2
From: Ladson, sc, US
Default Re: (TypeRobert)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TypeRobert &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">actually thats and oil COOLER</TD></TR></TABLE>

actually honda calls it an oil warmer. it just allows warm coolant to pass across the oil filter housing helping the warming of the oil during below operating tempurature driving. warm oil means higher oil pressure, which is why its on the Z1, its the only usdm 1.5L vtec. the vx also doesnt use the coolant temp to determine vtec engagement or not, therefore, the quicker the oil warms the more control over vtec engagement (16valve mode in the z1's case) thats just my theory
Reply
Old May 14, 2006 | 07:12 PM
  #7  
Soccerking3000's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 6,281
Likes: 0
From: Catching Rivers on Fire TWICE
Default Re: (schardbody)

i thought warmer oil is less oil pressure... since it becomes thinner with temperature reducing the pressure because it can flow easier
Reply
Old May 14, 2006 | 07:17 PM
  #8  
schardbody's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 4,338
Likes: 2
From: Ladson, sc, US
Default

lol, warm any liquid and watch it expand. it becomes thinner because its expanding. think about your coolant system, gets hot, expands, system pressure rises. like i said though, this is all theory :wink:
Reply
Old May 14, 2006 | 07:48 PM
  #9  
Bense's Avatar
Thread Starter
B*a*n*n*e*d
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 9,783
Likes: 47
From: Greenville, South Carolina
Default Re: (EG6_GUY)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EG6_GUY &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Bense, does this piece have plumbing to an external radiator? Or does coolant just flow straight in and out of that adapter?

Been thinking of putting one of those on the B16A.</TD></TR></TABLE>

one line runs to the coolant "pipe" and the other line goes into the block.

I'm thinking I can just run a hose from the IACV, to one of the lines on the warmer/cooler and the a line from the cooler/warmer to the coolant pipe.
Reply
Old May 14, 2006 | 07:51 PM
  #10  
schardbody's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 4,338
Likes: 2
From: Ladson, sc, US
Default

you dont have the barb on the coolant pipe or something???
Reply
Old May 14, 2006 | 07:54 PM
  #11  
Soccerking3000's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 6,281
Likes: 0
From: Catching Rivers on Fire TWICE
Default Re: (schardbody)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by schardbody &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lol, warm any liquid and watch it expand. it becomes thinner because its expanding. think about your coolant system, gets hot, expands, system pressure rises. like i said though, this is all theory :wink:</TD></TR></TABLE>

but the oil system is different, it enters the system hot and isnt heated all that much after it is pumped like the coolant system which is sealed, why do you think when you first start up your car at idle your oil pressure is at 80+psi but after driving idle is only 20psi? its cause it has been heated and thus thinner reducing pressure
Reply
Old May 14, 2006 | 07:55 PM
  #12  
schardbody's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 4,338
Likes: 2
From: Ladson, sc, US
Default

yeah, that makes sense i guess soccer, hell now that i think about it oil psi does drop as the engine warms, LOL, owned.
Reply
Old May 14, 2006 | 07:59 PM
  #13  
Bense's Avatar
Thread Starter
B*a*n*n*e*d
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 9,783
Likes: 47
From: Greenville, South Carolina
Default Re: (schardbody)

there's no barb on the b5 like there is on the z1. and I just don't feel like taking it apart unless i absolutely have to.
Reply
Old May 14, 2006 | 08:02 PM
  #14  
schardbody's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 4,338
Likes: 2
From: Ladson, sc, US
Default

as long as its a closed system it should be fine.
Reply
Old May 14, 2006 | 08:27 PM
  #15  
Bense's Avatar
Thread Starter
B*a*n*n*e*d
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 9,783
Likes: 47
From: Greenville, South Carolina
Default Re: (schardbody)

here we go, d15z1 block with oil warmer removed.


and two shots of the gx block with the oil warmer

.

i'm curious about that empty threaded hole above the filter, what the hell is that? is it a place to mount the oil warmer "nozzle"????


Modified by Bense at 12:38 AM 5/15/2006
Reply
Old May 15, 2006 | 09:14 AM
  #16  
Bense's Avatar
Thread Starter
B*a*n*n*e*d
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 9,783
Likes: 47
From: Greenville, South Carolina
Default Re: d15z1 oil warmer? (Bense)

wow, this thing retails for $416.67 at the dealer!!!!
Reply
Old May 15, 2006 | 09:17 AM
  #17  
Soccerking3000's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 6,281
Likes: 0
From: Catching Rivers on Fire TWICE
Default Re: d15z1 oil warmer? (Bense)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bense &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wow, this thing retails for $416.67 at the dealer!!!! </TD></TR></TABLE>

holy jesus
Reply
Old May 15, 2006 | 10:51 AM
  #18  
schardbody's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 4,338
Likes: 2
From: Ladson, sc, US
Default

sure does
Reply
Old May 17, 2006 | 11:24 PM
  #19  
wilham320's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 424
Likes: 0
From: lubbock
Default Re: (Bense)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bense &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i'm curious about that empty threaded hole above the filter, what the hell is that? is it a place to mount the oil warmer "nozzle"????
</TD></TR></TABLE>
knock sensor hole....

did you ever get pix of the b5 rods to see if they are the same as ls rods??
Reply
Old May 19, 2006 | 05:44 PM
  #20  
Hondaciv95VX's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 511
Likes: 0
Default Re: d15z1 oil warmer? (Bense)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bense &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wow, this thing retails for $416.67 at the dealer!!!! </TD></TR></TABLE>

OMG....!

That **** better not break : /
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
ahron
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
9
Sep 9, 2007 06:59 PM
AZNMOB
Acura Integra
6
Jan 25, 2007 06:13 PM
Si Shane
Forced Induction
2
Jul 6, 2006 04:59 PM
jdmcx
Tech / Misc
4
Apr 7, 2004 06:38 AM
neilff
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
4
Jul 29, 2003 07:20 AM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:00 AM.