Bense

Yeah, yeah, I know that it's actually an oil cooler. But for the d15z1 fuel sipper engine, they call it an oil warmer? Now the d15z1 has all kinds of unique features that make it more efficicent, but how does this oil "warmer" help?

resting between the block and the oil filter, I stole this off of my d15z1 swap, and put it on my d16b5 (see sig)

Soccerking3000

maybe to get the oil up to temperature faster allowing it become thinner and thus have less resistance? got me

schardbody

i think its because they built it to be boosted, and it makes it easier to tap into the coolant lines, LOL. just my $.02

TypeRobert

actually thats and oil COOLER

EG6_GUY

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TypeRobert &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">actually thats and oil COOLER</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bense &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah, yeah, I know that it's actually an oil cooler. But for the d15z1 fuel sipper engine, they call it an oil warmer?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Bense, does this piece have plumbing to an external radiator? Or does coolant just flow straight in and out of that adapter?

Been thinking of putting one of those on the B16A.

schardbody

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TypeRobert &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">actually thats and oil COOLER</TD></TR></TABLE>

actually honda calls it an oil warmer. it just allows warm coolant to pass across the oil filter housing helping the warming of the oil during below operating tempurature driving. warm oil means higher oil pressure, which is why its on the Z1, its the only usdm 1.5L vtec. the vx also doesnt use the coolant temp to determine vtec engagement or not, therefore, the quicker the oil warms the more control over vtec engagement (16valve mode in the z1's case) thats just my theory

Soccerking3000

i thought warmer oil is less oil pressure... since it becomes thinner with temperature reducing the pressure because it can flow easier

schardbody

lol, warm any liquid and watch it expand. it becomes thinner because its expanding. think about your coolant system, gets hot, expands, system pressure rises. like i said though, this is all theory :wink:

Bense

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EG6_GUY &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Bense, does this piece have plumbing to an external radiator? Or does coolant just flow straight in and out of that adapter?

Been thinking of putting one of those on the B16A.</TD></TR></TABLE>

one line runs to the coolant "pipe" and the other line goes into the block.

I'm thinking I can just run a hose from the IACV, to one of the lines on the warmer/cooler and the a line from the cooler/warmer to the coolant pipe.

schardbody

you dont have the barb on the coolant pipe or something???

Soccerking3000

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by schardbody &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lol, warm any liquid and watch it expand. it becomes thinner because its expanding. think about your coolant system, gets hot, expands, system pressure rises. like i said though, this is all theory :wink:</TD></TR></TABLE>

but the oil system is different, it enters the system hot and isnt heated all that much after it is pumped like the coolant system which is sealed, why do you think when you first start up your car at idle your oil pressure is at 80+psi but after driving idle is only 20psi? its cause it has been heated and thus thinner reducing pressure

schardbody

yeah, that makes sense i guess soccer, hell now that i think about it oil psi does drop as the engine warms, LOL, owned.

Bense

there's no barb on the b5 like there is on the z1. and I just don't feel like taking it apart unless i absolutely have to.

schardbody

as long as its a closed system it should be fine.

Bense

here we go, d15z1 block with oil warmer removed.


and two shots of the gx block with the oil warmer

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i'm curious about that empty threaded hole above the filter, what the hell is that? is it a place to mount the oil warmer "nozzle"????


Modified by Bense at 12:38 AM 5/15/2006

Bense

wow, this thing retails for $416.67 at the dealer!!!!

Soccerking3000

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holy jesus

schardbody

sure does

wilham320

iTrader: (1)

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knock sensor hole....

did you ever get pix of the b5 rods to see if they are the same as ls rods??

Hondaciv95VX

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bense &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wow, this thing retails for $416.67 at the dealer!!!! </TD></TR></TABLE>

OMG....!

That **** better not break : /