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Old May 12, 2006 | 10:48 PM
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Okay, I've searched like a ****', on like 5 forums. My particular question hasn't been directly answered, that I've found, so, take a sec, and, if you KNOW the answer, post it. Thanks.

I have a 91 LS.
Front - Stock front struts, camber kit (soon).
Rear - ITR rear struts, 88 CRX rear LCA's, camber kit (soon).

I've got a local deal on some Tein lowering springs ($50), according to Tein they are for 88-91 Honda Civic and 88-91 Honda CRX - (I realize the spring rates are different).

From what I've read, these springs (88-91 Honda Civic/88-91 Honda CRX) will fit on my DA no problem.

My questions are:

1. Are the struts at all going to be a problem? - I've read that the struts are different heights (Civic vs. Integra). This concerns me.

2. Do I need to get different front struts?
3. Will I have a problem with travel distance?
4. Will I need to trim the bump stop?

Thanks for any and all info or links to relevant posts I've missed.
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Old May 13, 2006 | 11:54 AM
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Old May 13, 2006 | 12:09 PM
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The spring rate is for the Tein Civic springs is:

Front 269 lbs/in
Rear 123 lbs/in

Stock Gen II Integra spring rate is:

Front 263 lbs/in
Rear 143 lbs/in

So, I guess all I'm doing is lowering my car with these things. Of course, with the planned rear sway bar and ITR rear struts the back end is going to get stiffer and body roll will be reduced.

Interestingly enough, the spring rate for Tein S-Tech for 90-93 Integra is:

F 212 lbs/in
R 140 lbs/in

VS. stock, less in the front, same in the rear.
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Old May 13, 2006 | 12:23 PM
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Below is a generic definition of the benefits of lowering springs. I'm confused, why do the Tein lowering springs for my car not have higher spring rates than stock???

"Lowering springs use increased spring rates engineered to cope with the reduction in travel, while still preventing bottoming of the suspension under most conditions found during normal driving. The increased spring rates help control side-to-side body roll during cornering, as well as the pitch and nosedive experienced during spirited acceleration and braking."
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Old May 13, 2006 | 04:34 PM
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The civic springs have a rear rate of 120 for a 2100lb car. Tein springs for my DA have a spring rate of 140 for a 2500lb car with a 62/38 split (1500lb weight in the front and 1000lb rear).

First, its just 20lbs/in difference in the spring rate between vehicles. Second, the DA is light in the back, and more so with the spare removed.

So are we really talking about that much difference? Furthermore, won't my having ITR struts and a Suspension Techniques rear sway bar more than make up for the 20lb/in spring rate difference?

Since my OEM front struts will wear faster with the lowering springs I'll get some new aftermarket ones, my OEM ones are less than 1yr old, but I'll just sell them to get some $$ back.

Cheers.
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