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Piston and rod conecting gone wrong! help!

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Old May 12, 2006 | 06:15 PM
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So while trying to slide the wrist pin into the piston through the rod, it basiclly just stoped. The wrist pin is not dead center, its a little off. The wrist pin is right at the edge of the piston and it's sticking out anout .5mm out. Should i take it to a shop to press it in again or am i okay to run the piston like this? I really rather not spend any more money and time with this pistson but if i need to, i will.


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Old May 12, 2006 | 06:36 PM
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They should be centered. they should have done it rigth the first time.
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Old May 12, 2006 | 06:37 PM
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Can you not give it a bit of motivation with a rubber mallet?
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Old May 12, 2006 | 06:39 PM
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try wriggling it around
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Old May 12, 2006 | 06:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Archidictus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Can you not give it a bit of motivation with a rubber mallet?</TD></TR></TABLE>
No, not unless you want to f them up.
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Old May 12, 2006 | 06:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chiovnidca &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No, not unless you want to f them up.</TD></TR></TABLE>

if it's really .5mm, I highly doubt a tap from a rubber mallet is going to damage them. I'm not talking about a full-armed swing here, just a bit of a massage to determine whether or not the wrist pin is locked against something or just being stubborn.
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Old May 12, 2006 | 06:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Archidictus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Can you not give it a bit of motivation with a rubber mallet?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, i tried that already and it wouldn't budge. I got the wrist pin inside by heating the rod up so while it was still hot, I used the rubber mallet and nothing happend.
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Old May 12, 2006 | 06:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Archidictus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

if it's really .5mm, I highly doubt a tap from a rubber mallet is going to damage them. I'm not talking about a full-armed swing here, just a bit of a massage to determine whether or not the wrist pin is locked against something or just being stubborn.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I did try the rubber mallet and it would hit the piston instead of the wrist pin. The mallet is no where close to get contact with the pin. I'd probably smash the piston before i get to the wrist pin haha
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Old May 12, 2006 | 06:46 PM
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Try taking a deep socket and sticking it in there and hiting the socket with the mallet.
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Old May 12, 2006 | 06:49 PM
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heres a picture of how little the wrist pin is sticking out

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Old May 12, 2006 | 06:53 PM
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Is there a lubricant that is supposed to be on it to help it fit.
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Old May 12, 2006 | 06:53 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spoonracer84eg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Try taking a deep socket and sticking it in there and hiting the socket with the mallet.</TD></TR></TABLE>

This is a bad idea. The rubber mallet won't hurt the pin or the piston. A socket potentially could.

This is why we get a machine shop to assemble the pistons and rods
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Old May 12, 2006 | 06:54 PM
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Err, aren't wrist pins supposed to be pressed in with a press?

It's not expensive to have done at a machine shop.
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Old May 12, 2006 | 06:57 PM
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Machine shop would charged me $15 for one rod+piston to be pressed, so times that by 4. I got 3 out of the 4 piston to fit perfectly, just this one was a little off.
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Old May 12, 2006 | 06:58 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spoonracer84eg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is there a lubricant that is supposed to be on it to help it fit.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Your not surpose to use lubricant to push the wrist pin threw the piston and threw the rod. You'll break the rod or even the piston. No way lubricant would help, you have to heat up the rod and push the wrist pin threw.
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Old May 12, 2006 | 07:00 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Master23 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Machine shop would charged me $15 for one rod+piston to be pressed, so times that by 4. I got 3 out of the 4 piston to fit perfectly, just this one was a little off.</TD></TR></TABLE>
How much does a new piston cost? Beat on it a little, you might find out.
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Old May 12, 2006 | 07:27 PM
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Did you say you did it? or a shop did? If the shop did it and it isnt perfect then take it back and tell them to redo it. if you did it, then take the one in and have it done right. I'd rather spend $15 and time to get it done right so i can sleep at night and not have to worry everytime I beat on the engine. Besides, $15 and some time now could save you a lot $$$ and a lot more time down the road.
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Old May 12, 2006 | 07:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sandmaggot &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Did you say you did it? or a shop did? If the shop did it and it isnt perfect then take it back and tell them to redo it. if you did it, then take the one in and have it done right. I'd rather spend $15 and time to get it done right so i can sleep at night and not have to worry everytime I beat on the engine. Besides, $15 and some time now could save you a lot $$$ and a lot more time down the road.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Your advice seems to be the best so far. I pressed the 3 out of 4 wrist pins myself and they in perfect position. Looks like i have no choice, although i did save some money doing 3 out of 4 myselt. Machine shop it is!
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