I've been looking into getting an oil feed kit for my turbo project and I'm really hesitant about taking out my oil pressure sensor and putting all the fitting, oil restrictor, oil sensor, stainless line.

That's a lot of weight on an aluminum threading. Sure, I can run a line to the firewall, then put all the sensors and restrictor in mounted to the firewall, but there's got to be a better way.

I was thinking about getting an oil sandwich adapter from FAL (same company that makes the fans). It is used to run a coil cooling setup. It cost roughly $30 shipped and is cheaper than the LSVTEC oil sandwich adapters (roughly $80).



I can plug one of the holes on the adapter with a screw. The other I can put in a fitting that will allow me to run the -4AN feed line to the fitting for the turbo.

What do you think?
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Throw any ideas this way. I'm open for anything.

 

dont plug the wrong hole

 

golden eagle and blox also makes a oil sandwich used for numerous taps...ls/vtec oil line, turbo feed line, oil pressure gauges taps etc


https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1595375 you can order them from spoolinperformance.com from phil(hondatech name project dc2)

 

I actually like the sandwich plate adapters because I got a fubar'd T fitting before, which was stuck in my block, which was causing an oil leak, ect, ect.

I'm running the GReddy sandwich adapter. I have zero complaints about it, though I had gotten a cheaper one.

If you can find one that has a 4AN female port I'd reccomend getting that as opposed to getting one with a 1/8" BSTP because then you have to get the 1/8" BSTP to 1/8" NPT adapter, and then the 1/8" NPT to 4AN adapter. Huge pain the *** trying to find all that stuff, and then pay $4 for an adapter and $20 for shipping.

 

yeah greddy sandwich adapter and golden eagle ====== madd loot.. i'm looking for a cost effective solution that would cost as much as all the adapters

 

also from the looks of it...if your tapping off that fitting its going to be unfiltered oil....unlike the ge where it pulls its source from the center....it appears this is on the outside

 

alot of weight for aluminum threading? how do you figure that is alot of weight? Id like to know

 

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People usually use brass fittings, which dont' have the same expansion rate as aluminum.

The reason those fittings break is because there's too much weight on them (ie: people run the sensor, feed line, and a mechanical oil sensor, which apparently are heavy.

Just using the sensor and an oil feed won't be too much weight on the brass fitting.

I'd still prefer the use of a sandwich plate adapter over a T fitting, though.

 

elvis put u in your spot teefunk

 

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Nah, I didn't put anyone in their place. I was just saying why some people use remote mounts vs just a T fitting.

If you're not running an oil sensor you'd probably be fine using a T, but I personally prefer the block adapter over anything else.

 

i think your just goin g over board. use a fast-turbo set up and it will work fine. Keep it simple. it works

 

I use the Golden Eagle block adapter for my oil feed. No problems. I don't know if it really matters, but i liked the idea of freshly filtered oil going stirght into the turbo. I also didn't want to do all the T-fittings. It also has an extra hole if I ever want to add an oil pressure gauge or something.

 

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People usually use brass fittings, which dont' have the same expansion rate as aluminum.

The reason those fittings break is because there's too much weight on them (ie: people run the sensor, feed line, and a mechanical oil sensor, which apparently are heavy.

Just using the sensor and an oil feed won't be too much weight on the brass fitting.

I'd still prefer the use of a sandwich plate adapter over a T fitting, though.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's why whenever I make an oil feed line I always buy two -3an lines. One 12"-14" line to go from the block to the firewall. Then with various T's for all the sensors and a 40" - 44" line from the firewall to the turbo. This removes all the weight off the block fitting.

 

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i believe teefunk put you in your spot on the highway.

Several 500+ whp local cars and shops down here use t fittings so i wouldnt say they are completely shitty. I've personally ran t fittings for mech guages and feed lines and havent had any problems whatsoever on quite a few cars. If you feel safer using a sandwich plate then do so. I would personally spend the extra money and get a reputable one from GE but its your car so whatever. GE is screened whereas that FAL one doesnt look like it is.





Modified by SONIC BOOM at 3:59 PM 5/18/2006

 

in my spot? your going wayyy overboard with this fitting.. aluminum fitting will fit fine... o and now ill put you in your spot...this kid pieces together a ls/vtec kit....sells it...pieces together a turbo kit...sells it....and is now piecing together a kit. As far as Im concern Ive seen nothing done to that car. E-Mechanics

 

aluminum fitting? most fittings for the kits are brass, that's why they breakkkkkkkkkkk .. hahah

sonic boom what does 500 hp got anythign to do with oil line fittings?

 

numerous people have had great luck with t fittings. just because your worried about using them doesnt mean they entirely suck. sandwich adaptors is just another alternative.

 

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so exactly why do you care??

 

i was just harassing tim for fun since it's finally sunny out

 

500+ hp shows that the cars in the area that produce enough power dont fail on parts such as your fitting... see you at the track when your cars done

 

500 hp has nothing to do with oil feeding into the turbo.. if there's too much weight on the fitting it'll break whether it be 50 or 500hp.. just because u run 500hp doesn't mean more oil is going into the turbo. if that were the case, everyone would have blown seals


Modified by huepowered at 4:38 PM 5/18/2006

 

hmm how many motors have you built? how many oil lines have you ran? since this is the forced induction forum....have you gone wrenched on a motor with force induction? better yet have you turned a wrench? read my oil pressure level for me see if its good...also check the fittings on my motor for me too please

 

we have a honda tech talkin parrot in person!~ he repeats what he sees online! hahahahhaha


yes, a fitting will break if you have too much weight on it as well as overtightening it. your point is? doesnt mean t-fittings are completely shitty and wont work for what you are doing. What did you use before sandwich adapters became so common??? i highly doubt you were using sandwich adapters 5 years ago.

yes, a turbo relies on oil for lubrication, not oil pressure. we're saying the t fittings have been reliable for several 500hp applications LOCALLY but the sandwich adapter is also an alternative. Im sure there's plenty of applications on HT where people are making absurd amounts of power on t fittings. stop acting like we're complete idiots since we dont sit on HT and pgmfi nonstop all day.

Its gay how some people read honda tech all day and then repeat what they see ONLINE and use that as their personal experience without even doing or using it in person what ever happened to HANDS ON EXPERIENCE???

 

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yes, a fitting will break if you have too much weight on it as well as overtightening it. your point is? doesnt mean t-fittings are completely shitty and wont work for what you are doing. What did you use before sandwich adapters became so common??? i highly doubt you were using sandwich adapters 5 years ago.

yes, a turbo relies on oil for lubrication, not oil pressure. we're saying the t fittings have been reliable for several 500hp applications LOCALLY but the sandwich adapter is also an alternative. Im sure there's plenty of applications on HT where people are making absurd amounts of power on t fittings. stop acting like we're complete idiots since we dont sit on HT and pgmfi nonstop all day.

Its gay how some people read honda tech all day and then repeat what they see ONLINE and use that as their personal experience without even doing or using it in person what ever happened to HANDS ON EXPERIENCE???
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i never said that t fittings are completely shitty.. i said i was hesitant about the amount of weight on a brass fitting.. yes brass fittings break, me and tim's brother had to go to home depot to buy more fittings when one snapped in half for the oil feed.. i sure as hell would prefer to not have a piece of brass stuck in my oil sensor hole, but if thats what i can afford that's what i'll buy.. the GE sandwich block cost as much as a whole oil feed / drain kit. so no thank you.

5 years ago most people ran turbos with FMUs.. but if there's a more reliable option at almost the same price like any of the EMS like hondata, crome, uberdata, neptune, etc etc why wouldn't you use it over the old style. i was just throwing this idea out there to see if it would work but it's unfiltered so that sucks. it would cost roughly the same as an off the shelf oil kit if the oil was filtered which would make it a viable alternative to the T fitting

i know tim knows his **** and his car is pretty quick.. and you probably know your ****.. i was just busting tims ***** for ***** and giggles, he's had a lot more wrench time than i do and does alot more to his car. i'm down to get more wrench time in and take theory into practice. we all start somewhere right?

 

what does FMU's have to do with brass fittings and sandwich adapters for oil lines??? no one said anything about fuel management. to the anti brass fitting hater. This thread is retarded.

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