Well, I'll be honest, I don't know how much I believe this... it may be true.. but it may be false

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by yl06si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I hv a 2006 hond civic si and just to let u know there is a rev sensor in the car and the dealrship can tell how fast u go when u red line and all that good stuff plus they will tell u that they will void ur warrenty how do i know this well i got caught in 4th gear red lined at 94 or 96 mph and they said if it happed agin they would void it just a lil fyi</TD></TR></TABLE>

http://www.clubcivic.com/board...84489

just thought i'd share

 

If that's true, I wonder if they'd know on an FG1.

Sometimes I like to feel how slow my car actually is

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eL &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If that's true, I wonder if they'd know on an FG1.

Sometimes I like to feel how slow my car actually is </TD></TR></TABLE>
not sure, dealer hasn't said **** to me, i've taken it up to 125mph redline in every gear.. had the oil changed at the dealer about 4/5 times by now

 

There's nothing in the manual about redlining the car voiding your warranty. But if you mis-shift 4th into second and blow up your motor, they'll probably pull that info from the computer and not fix your engine under warranty. And if you give them no reason to check, I'm sure they don't do it as a part of routine maintenance. I paid for all 8000 rpm and you'd better bet I'm going to use them.
I redline to my heart's content, just don't bang it off the rev limiter all the time.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SeanJohn1802 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
not sure, dealer hasn't said **** to me, i've taken it up to 125mph redline in every gear.. had the oil changed at the dealer about 4/5 times by now</TD></TR></TABLE>

Sorry to get OT but how many miles on your car? I just got my maintenance light a few days ago for the first oil change at 5200miles.

 

Alot of cars have these "sensors,", its called your ECU. Why is it there? So when you misshift your Si and come into the dealership with a blown up motor, he can tell you that you overreved and the warranty is not covering it. This is nothing new. Most ECU's record the last 100+ shift points (rpm's). They will know your driving style and mainly if the car has been overreved. The only time I have seen this being used is in the case of warranties, for approval or denial.

 

Hey so shift before you redline.... theres a light for that!

 

uh.. i got like 15k almost..i'll have to double check, i commute 73 miles roundtrip 5 days a week and go out of town a lot

 

reset the ecu before you going to honduh?

 

we have 4 different scanners at my work none of which would capture that data unless a mil was stored at the same time as redline. So the HDS must be very advanced because none of ours have that ability. Can anyone verify that this is true.

 

Wow. I'm going to ask our service technicians tomorrow about this. That's pretty interesting and b.s. (not yours or ours) at the same time. So say this is your first MT car and you're not good at finding 5th or 6th gear, then what? You get penalized for being a novice? While it wouldn't suprize me it's still really irks me. to the dealer that claims this one!

 

Don't think its true... if you blow an engine because you red lined... it should be covered by warrenty even though your technically fucked up.

 

Wow that sucks, but yea, like someone else said... we paid for every line up into the red, if we want, we will redline til theres no adrenaline left in our system.

 

No manufacturer can void your ENTIRE warranty. They can deny further service on the engine and its rotating mass, HOWEVER, the rest of the car will still be covered. If they try to tell you the warranty is void, then they are lying to your face. Don't believe it. It's a massive scam.

Felt like getting that out there.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Nishant &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Alot of cars have these "sensors,", its called your ECU. Why is it there? So when you misshift your Si and come into the dealership with a blown up motor, he can tell you that you overreved and the warranty is not covering it. This is nothing new. Most ECU's record the last 100+ shift points (rpm's). They will know your driving style and mainly if the car has been overreved. The only time I have seen this being used is in the case of warranties, for approval or denial.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Exactly....

 

I had a message displayed on my odometer saying, " Check Fuel Cap" So I check the cap and button, nothing wrong. It displayed this everytime I cranked the car for 3 days. So I called to ask about it with my salesman and he asked if I have been taking it off the rev limiter? I Questioned him and got no real response. But I havent been taking it off the rev limiter, mainly shifting when I see the light. Anyone ever heard of this??? crazy

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 06BlackSi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I had a message displayed on my odometer saying, " Check Fuel Cap" So I check the cap and button, nothing wrong. It displayed this everytime I cranked the car for 3 days. So I called to ask about it with my salesman and he asked if I have been taking it off the rev limiter? I Questioned him and got no real response. But I havent been taking it off the rev limiter, mainly shifting when I see the light. Anyone ever heard of this??? crazy
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If there's a memory in that ECU that will check the revlimiter in your cars, then that's what the dealer will use to void all warranty work. Don't trust them guys....

I'd reset my ECU everytime I take it in, and that may also solve your gas door problem.

 

I personally think its bullshit if they can void your warranty for that. First off....its not really redlining the car, we all know the motor can take it. They put the rev limiter there so you wont rev anymore....if the motor can't take that much use, they should be a lower limiter in there!

I mean, WTF....okay....lets sell a car with 197hp and revs to 8200rpm, but if the owner uses it a lot, he caused the damage and we are not going to cover the engine on a 3year/36k mile powertrain warranty!

That's just F@#ked up, IMO.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Marauder &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I personally think its bullshit if they can void your warranty for that. First off....its not really redlining the car, we all know the motor can take it. They put the rev limiter there so you wont rev anymore....if the motor can't take that much use, they should be a lower limiter in there!

I mean, WTF....okay....lets sell a car with 197hp and revs to 8200rpm, but if the owner uses it a lot, he caused the damage and we are not going to cover the engine on a 3year/36k mile powertrain warranty!

That's just F@#ked up, IMO. </TD></TR></TABLE>

it has nothing to do with redlining the car

the reason it is there is just in case you do mis shift at redline and downshift instead of upshifting you can't blame the car for floating a valve or busting a piston.

if your in 3rd gear at 8000 rpms and shift to 2nd instead of 4th you can't blame anyone else except yourself for the engine's death.

 

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if your in 3rd gear at 8000 rpms and shift to 2nd instead of 4th you can't blame anyone else except yourself for the engine's death. </TD></TR></TABLE>

In that case, they should be looking at when you spin the motor faster than the rev limiter. Since the motor revs to 8200 rpm, you can't reject warranty if normal vehicle operation stays within the limits.

On miss shifts, it should be easy to spin it faster than the rev cut, and should only log rpm's about the rev cut, and then void it based on that.

When I was working in Champ Car, back in the days, one driver miss-shifted leaving the pits and instead of shifting from 2-3 he went from 2-1 and the engine revved over 20,000 rpm.....back then the normal rev cut was just under 16,000rom. They don't know how high the motor was revved, since they only logged to 20,000 rpm limit, but after that, the upper limit on the logging was removed so if it happen again they would know how high it went.

Needless to say....that team had to pay $$ for the rebuild....haha..

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Nishant &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
So when you misshift your Si and come into the dealership with a blown up motor, he can tell you that you overreved and the warranty is not covering it. This is nothing new. Most ECU's record the last 100+ shift points (rpm's). They will know your driving style and mainly if the car has been overreved. The only time I have seen this being used is in the case of warranties, for approval or denial.</TD></TR></TABLE>

When I was a Honda service advisor, I saw a few S2000s come in with internal engine damage caused by mis-shifting, and Honda covered every one of them under warranty. My dad, a service manager, saw even more. When I was with Acura, they covered a kid who missed a shift and hit about 9300rpm in his RSX-S.

Even if the dealer says they won't warranty the repair, one call to Honda consumer affairs will get it fixed under warranty every time. Most of the time, the customer doesn't even have to make the call. When the dealer calls tech-assist, they authorize the repair without question. Honda's warranty department will buy anything.

 

I work at an Acura dealership and I asked our service managers today. They said it's true. The ECU records your driving characteristics. Redlines, Top speed redlines. Only redline associated issues. It's all being done in an effort to save Honda $$$. They said some guy came in with a GSR w/ an extended warranty claiming his engine was a p.o.s. They read his ECU and told him the issue wasn't the engine but the driver. So he was SOL.

Nothing is sacred anymore.

 

06Black Si, don't ask the salesman. Odds are he's not a mechanic and doesn't carry a certification to be one. I'm a salesman and I learn new S*** everyday. Go to your service dept or another dealer's service rep if you don't want your dealer to know how you really treat that car.

 

Why was the vehicle in for service? The reason I am asking is that all vehicles from 1996 and up can display "freeze frame" data. This data shows the sensor values at the time a fault set. So if the vehicle was being driven hard and a DTC was set, the freeze frame would show the dealer that p0000 was set at 7300rpms with 100% throttle at 195 degrees engine temp... and the list goes on. 2006 vehicles can record a lot of driving info but the dealer has to have a reason to actually want to look at it. Dealers will not automatically scan your car for reasons to void your warranty, at least not good dealers. Chances are that the vehicle had a check engine light on or some other driveability problem and when the tech pulled the code and freeze frame data it showed the code was set while the car was being driven hard. On board diagnostic software is not intended for the dealer to advise you on how to drive your car but to aid in repairing a fault and they can not void your warranty for driving your car the way it was intended to be driven.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SeanJohn1802 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
not sure, dealer hasn't said **** to me, i've taken it up to 125mph redline in every gear.. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Dumb ****.