I need help reaching 300whp with my gsr.......
I need help reaching 300whp in my new(2 me) gsr. I deff want a turbo kit and no NOS. I would like to reach it with just a turbo kit(and some blot on's) but I know that will be hard.And i dont want to spend the loot for a full-race. I was thinking like a rev hard or a drag. Will it be possible? And I have searched but have not found what I Have been looking for.
Get a Full-Race Pro Street GT turbo kit, with their Garret 3037 Turbo Charger. Grab a good tuner, ask them their preferred tuning method, and go to it. Also, get at least 550cc/min injectors.
Yea I been looking at there site but I think they are way over priced. I know they have good stuff but I am not looking to spend that much $. I was thinking darg or revhard price range. Thanks
Safest way, Build the bottom end, with 10-20lbs on a Good size turbo,
You can Probably get away with not doing Much work on the head.
You can Probably get away with not doing Much work on the head.
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Either way, you'll spend at least $5000 when everything is said and done.
Either way, you'll spend at least $5000 when everything is said and done.
i was looking and i can get the stage 3 ac turbo kit for 4700. and it said like 600hp. so hell I dont know."If you want to play you are gonna pay"
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jeb97gsr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i was looking and i can get the stage 3 ac turbo kit for 4700. and it said like 600hp. so hell I dont know."If you want to play you are gonna pay"</TD></TR></TABLE>
Full-Race engineers their parts (any product they produce) very well. They are not the type of company that just thinks of a part and makes it, they actually R&D what they intend to sell. Plus, their customer service is top-notch. Call their Tech support, and run your goals past them. These guys will let you know what you need. While you are at it, ask them why their kits are the best there are.
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Full-Race engineers their parts (any product they produce) very well. They are not the type of company that just thinks of a part and makes it, they actually R&D what they intend to sell. Plus, their customer service is top-notch. Call their Tech support, and run your goals past them. These guys will let you know what you need. While you are at it, ask them why their kits are the best there are.
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you dont need help with getting 300whp, you need knowledge of what your talking about..... just go down to the nearest proformance shop tell them to build your motor with forged lower compression pistons, then go out and buy the biggest turbo kit you can find and the best cams and install them your self. and if you cant do it yourself then why do you want a 300 whp car when u dont know how it works... and its not NOS its nitrous... and after you build your magic car with the forged pistions nitrous would be great, so dont just ask questions if you cant speak the language.... goodluck
Modified by Red1ine at 8:15 PM 5/10/2006
Modified by Red1ine at 8:15 PM 5/10/2006
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Red1ine »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you dont need help with getting 300whp, you need knowledge of what your talking about..... just go down to the nearest proformance shop tell them to build your motor with forged lower compression pistons, then go out and buy the biggest turbo kit you can find and the best cams and install them your self. and if you cant do it yourself then why do you want a 300 whp car when u dont know how it works... and its not NOS its nitrous... and after you build your magic car with the forged pistions nitrous would be great, so dont just ask questions if you cant speak the language.... goodluck</TD></TR></TABLE>
^I would have worded that a little differently, but basically that covers it. Beef up your bottom end, keep the stock head and cams. GS-R cams are great for a 300whp motor. Have it tuned.
Also, avoid getting the "the biggest turbo kit you can find". A small-medium sized turbo will yield 300whp, and be much more responsive than a huge turbo. Study different turbo's compressor maps, and plot those to find one that is the most efficient for your application. If this sound like gibberish to you, call that number that I provided in a previous post.
^I would have worded that a little differently, but basically that covers it. Beef up your bottom end, keep the stock head and cams. GS-R cams are great for a 300whp motor. Have it tuned.
Also, avoid getting the "the biggest turbo kit you can find". A small-medium sized turbo will yield 300whp, and be much more responsive than a huge turbo. Study different turbo's compressor maps, and plot those to find one that is the most efficient for your application. If this sound like gibberish to you, call that number that I provided in a previous post.
torn.. i think hes talkin to jeb lol
good info tho
on the Full-Race in the stage 2 AC capible turbo kit, it claims "On a 100% stock GSR engine in a full interior/stereo/sunroof 1996 Civic EX Coupe, 11.40's are consistently reached with this turbo kit"
is there any truth to this? If 11.4 are reachable with this kit on an otherwise stock vehicle then why should the bottom end be beefed up? I'm not trying to say you guys are wrong I just want to understand... is it so there is no damage done to the engine?
good info tho
on the Full-Race in the stage 2 AC capible turbo kit, it claims "On a 100% stock GSR engine in a full interior/stereo/sunroof 1996 Civic EX Coupe, 11.40's are consistently reached with this turbo kit"
is there any truth to this? If 11.4 are reachable with this kit on an otherwise stock vehicle then why should the bottom end be beefed up? I'm not trying to say you guys are wrong I just want to understand... is it so there is no damage done to the engine?
ye the forged pistons are just to be safe than sorry for that power range, but i would highly recommend the stronger lower compression piston for street this way your not counting the days before it blows up, plus its better with the turbo, notice how stock turbo cars have low compression pistions than non-turbo cars
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jeb97gsr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I need help reaching 300whp in my new(2 me) gsr. I deff want a turbo kit and no NOS. I would like to reach it with just a turbo kit(and some blot on's) but I know that will be hard.And i dont want to spend the loot for a full-race. I was thinking like a rev hard or a drag. Will it be possible? And I have searched but have not found what I Have been looking for.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Check my Sig for my FS thread. I can hit 300whp & I'm only using a turbo.
Check my Sig for my FS thread. I can hit 300whp & I'm only using a turbo.
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I know, but it is more fun this way.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by m0rbid »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">on the Full-Race in the stage 2 AC capible turbo kit, it claims "On a 100% stock GSR engine in a full interior/stereo/sunroof 1996 Civic EX Coupe, 11.40's are consistently reached with this turbo kit"
is there any truth to this? If 11.4 are reachable with this kit on an otherwise stock vehicle then why should the bottom end be beefed up? I'm not trying to say you guys are wrong I just want to understand... is it so there is no damage done to the engine?</TD></TR></TABLE>
It is a good idea to beef up the bottom end to withstand the extra abuse that it will see with a turbo. Is it absolutely necessary... no, but it will help. I am sure that the Civic that Full-Race speaks of also ran on race gas and slicks, not to mention the fact that the coupes launch like a rocket.
I know, but it is more fun this way.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by m0rbid »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">on the Full-Race in the stage 2 AC capible turbo kit, it claims "On a 100% stock GSR engine in a full interior/stereo/sunroof 1996 Civic EX Coupe, 11.40's are consistently reached with this turbo kit"
is there any truth to this? If 11.4 are reachable with this kit on an otherwise stock vehicle then why should the bottom end be beefed up? I'm not trying to say you guys are wrong I just want to understand... is it so there is no damage done to the engine?</TD></TR></TABLE>
It is a good idea to beef up the bottom end to withstand the extra abuse that it will see with a turbo. Is it absolutely necessary... no, but it will help. I am sure that the Civic that Full-Race speaks of also ran on race gas and slicks, not to mention the fact that the coupes launch like a rocket.
u might comes close by doing this..
run 10-11psi stock block GSR
mayb inline pro headgasket*
hondata intake manifold gasket
Victor X intake manifold
3inch downpipe
no cat (i know its bad)
3inch exhaust
get a decent turbo (do research)
i recommend some type of equal length manifold
u get the idea............
prolly agressive tunning you should be close to 300whp i am sure their are other combinations to get 300whp but this is what came to mind.
just remember if u read some1 elses setup, same car and mods do not expect to get exatly the same numbers there are soo many variables....
run 10-11psi stock block GSR
mayb inline pro headgasket*
hondata intake manifold gasket
Victor X intake manifold
3inch downpipe
no cat (i know its bad)
3inch exhaust
get a decent turbo (do research)
i recommend some type of equal length manifold
u get the idea............
prolly agressive tunning you should be close to 300whp i am sure their are other combinations to get 300whp but this is what came to mind.
just remember if u read some1 elses setup, same car and mods do not expect to get exatly the same numbers there are soo many variables....
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AznInvasion »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">u might comes close by doing this..
run 10-11psi....</TD></TR></TABLE>
On what turbo? 10-11psi on a K03 turbo (think VW 1.8T), is a far cry from what 10-11psi on a GT40R is. It is best to think of turbos by their flow rates, their efficiency rate, and the specific application...
GT3037R = 53lbs/min good to about 450whp
GT28 62 trim/0.6 A/R = 31lbs/min good to about 245whp
T3/60-1 0.7 A/R =61lbs/min good to about 510whp
run 10-11psi....</TD></TR></TABLE>
On what turbo? 10-11psi on a K03 turbo (think VW 1.8T), is a far cry from what 10-11psi on a GT40R is. It is best to think of turbos by their flow rates, their efficiency rate, and the specific application...
GT3037R = 53lbs/min good to about 450whp
GT28 62 trim/0.6 A/R = 31lbs/min good to about 245whp
T3/60-1 0.7 A/R =61lbs/min good to about 510whp
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