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Old May 10, 2006 | 12:26 AM
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Im looking to lower my RSX and want good suspension.I want it to feel like its stock yet slammed.Can anyone tell me the best way to go.Im looking into Tein but don't know which set up.I saw another posting of someone asking the same question.can anyone find it?any feed back would help.
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Old May 10, 2006 | 12:39 AM
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cut springs. almost all aftermarket springs have stiffer spring rates.
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Old May 10, 2006 | 06:04 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sImPleDc5 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im looking to lower my RSX and want good suspension.I want it to feel like its stock yet slammed.Can anyone tell me the best way to go.Im looking into Tein but don't know which set up.I saw another posting of someone asking the same question.can anyone find it?any feed back would help.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not going to happen, period. You can't have a stock ride and be slammed on a DC5--there is no magical spring to do this.
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Old May 10, 2006 | 01:15 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eMpAtHy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">cut springs. almost all aftermarket springs have stiffer spring rates.</TD></TR></TABLE>
lol i can't believe someone actually recommended that. Nothing will feel JUST like stock. Most coilovers ride harder the lower you go.
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Old May 10, 2006 | 03:51 PM
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go for progress competition coilovers. they are great for daily driving!
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Old May 10, 2006 | 08:10 PM
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Any coilover that uses the stock rubber upper mount and a lower spring rate will have a decent ride. Pillow ball mounts and high spring rates = harshness.
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Old May 10, 2006 | 08:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mikestypes &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Any coilover that uses the stock rubber upper mount and a lower spring rate will have a decent ride. Pillow ball mounts and high spring rates = harshness.</TD></TR></TABLE>

what do pillow ball mounts do?
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Old May 10, 2006 | 09:31 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Todd00 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Not going to happen, period. You can't have a stock ride and be slammed on a DC5--there is no magical spring to do this.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I c what you mean.I was just asking,im expecting and wanted a commfy ride.I guess tein type flex will do.unless anyone has a diff tein set up that is better.
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Old May 10, 2006 | 09:50 PM
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closest to stock is goin to be the Mugen set up, Flex sucks *** for daily driving, you feel almost every pebel, lol literally

PM me I can prollie help you out
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Old May 10, 2006 | 10:59 PM
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I have the tein ss on my car and I slammed it. My car is pretty bouncy rite now, i think its bc of my dampening, but I havent had time to fix it. But overall I like it.


I have a question. Does anyone know much about the JIC suspension. I wanted to switch my teins out for those.. But I havent heard much. If someone could get back, that would be great. Thankx in advance.

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Old May 11, 2006 | 05:19 AM
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If you want a decent ride, a mild set of lowering springs and decent shocks will get the job done (example: Koni shocks and Tein S_tech springs).

Unfortunately on the DC5, the lower you go, the worse the ride will be. On the older DC2 you could get away with a decent ride and semi-slammed car, but due to the suspension design on the DC5 there is no way for this to happen.

If you are riding on coilovers, then raise the car up and lower the shock settings.

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Old May 11, 2006 | 05:20 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gUrLiegUrL &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


I have a question. Does anyone know much about the JIC suspension. I wanted to switch my teins out for those.. But I havent heard much. If someone could get back, that would be great. Thankx in advance.

-Judy</TD></TR></TABLE>

Keep the teins. I haven't heard one good thing about the JICs on an EP3 or DC5.
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Old May 11, 2006 | 05:20 AM
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Espelier springs were real nice, slightly stiffer and a great ride, I've yet to get my TEIN coilovers to mimic the ride I had with those.

Basically, you're not going to get a "like" stock ride with coilovers. Look into just springs.
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Old May 11, 2006 | 07:16 AM
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if you want a stock ride then just stay with ur stock suspension
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Old May 11, 2006 | 08:55 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PearlBlueType-S &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you want a stock ride then just stay with ur stock suspension</TD></TR></TABLE>

Or get the A-spec suspension. Best of both worlds.
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Old May 11, 2006 | 11:03 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eMpAtHy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">cut springs. almost all aftermarket springs have stiffer spring rates.</TD></TR></TABLE>

wrong.. thats completely wrong

your going to have to research and dampers and springs that closely match with factory rates
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Old May 11, 2006 | 04:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thrty8street &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

what do pillow ball mounts do?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Pillow ball mounts use a solid steel spherical bearing mounted into the metal top mount. IE: metal on metal, which means no compliance.

Note: some "pillow ball" mounts have the bearing mounted in polyurethane to help with compliance, but I believe it is only the BC N1 that have that feature.

Several coilover kits utilize some of your stock rubber mounts, and these will be much better for compliance for daily driving.

However, nothing will be as smooth as stock, but A-spec and Mugen will be the next best choice IMO. There is also the new Vogtland kit, but I do not know anyone with it.
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Old May 11, 2006 | 05:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mikestypes &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Pillow ball mounts use a solid steel spherical bearing mounted into the metal top mount. IE: metal on metal, which means no compliance.

Note: some "pillow ball" mounts have the bearing mounted in polyurethane to help with compliance, but I believe it is only the BC N1 that have that feature.

Several coilover kits utilize some of your stock rubber mounts, and these will be much better for compliance for daily driving.

However, nothing will be as smooth as stock, but A-spec and Mugen will be the next best choice IMO. There is also the new Vogtland kit, but I do not know anyone with it.</TD></TR></TABLE>


why is it more for pillowball mounts? What is so good about them or what is the advantage of using them if they hinder you ride quality?
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Old May 11, 2006 | 05:31 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by silver comet &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lol i can't believe someone actually recommended that. Nothing will feel JUST like stock. Most coilovers ride harder the lower you go.</TD></TR></TABLE>

it was sarcasm.

i would never ever ever run cut springs. i hate the feel of cut springs.
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Old May 11, 2006 | 08:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thrty8street &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why is it more for pillowball mounts? What is so good about them or what is the advantage of using them if they hinder you ride quality?</TD></TR></TABLE>

They hinder ride qualty by removing unwanted suspension movement resulting in better performance. It is a trade-off between performance and comfort. You have to decide what you want.
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Old May 11, 2006 | 08:48 PM
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did u ever get dyno'ed with your new mugen exhaust manifold mikestypes?
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Old May 11, 2006 | 09:17 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Todd00 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you want a decent ride, a mild set of lowering springs and decent shocks will get the job done (example: Koni shocks and Tein S_tech springs).

Unfortunately on the DC5, the lower you go, the worse the ride will be. On the older DC2 you could get away with a decent ride and semi-slammed car, but due to the suspension design on the DC5 there is no way for this to happen.

If you are riding on coilovers, then raise the car up and lower the shock settings.

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Thats something I may give a try.Im sure ill jus end up lowerin it 2.I was just asking around.I wanted a smooth ride for my baby.Isnt a big deal though,she wont be in the car long periods of time.Im going with the Tein SS for sure then.

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Old May 12, 2006 | 03:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by carbing’ed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">did u ever get dyno'ed with your new mugen exhaust manifold mikestypes?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, it made 172 whp on a Mustang dyno with Injen CAI, Mugen header and Powergetter. Stock cars usually make low 150's on the same dyno.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mikestypes &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

However, nothing will be as smooth as stock, but A-spec and Mugen will be the next best choice IMO. There is also the new Vogtland kit, but I do not know anyone with it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Todd00 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you want a decent ride, a mild set of lowering springs and decent shocks will get the job done (example: Koni shocks and Tein S_tech springs).

Unfortunately on the DC5, the lower you go, the worse the ride will be. On the older DC2 you could get away with a decent ride and semi-slammed car, but due to the suspension design on the DC5 there is no way for this to happen.

If you are riding on coilovers, then raise the car up and lower the shock settings.

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Todd00 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

These guys are telling the trust. If you lower much more than an inch or an inch and a half the ride is shot. I have been running the HFP on my ep3 and that or the Mugen is about as good as you can for a DD, in your case the A-spec. The car looks better, handles pretty good and the ride doesnt kill you. On the other hand you could slam it and it will ride like a wagon.

Not going to happen, period. You can't have a stock ride and be slammed on a DC5--there is no magical spring to do this.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mikestypes &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

However, nothing will be as smooth as stock, but A-spec and Mugen will be the next best choice IMO. There is also the new Vogtland kit, but I do not know anyone with it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Todd00 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you want a decent ride, a mild set of lowering springs and decent shocks will get the job done (example: Koni shocks and Tein S_tech springs).

Unfortunately on the DC5, the lower you go, the worse the ride will be. On the older DC2 you could get away with a decent ride and semi-slammed car, but due to the suspension design on the DC5 there is no way for this to happen.

If you are riding on coilovers, then raise the car up and lower the shock settings.

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Not going to happen, period. You can't have a stock ride and be slammed on a DC5--there is no magical spring to do this.</TD></TR></TABLE>

These guys are telling the truth. If you lower much more than an inch or an inch and a half the ride is shot. I have been running the HFP on my ep3 and that or the Mugen is about as good as you can for a DD, in your case the A-spec. The car looks better, handles pretty good and the ride doesnt kill you. On the other hand you could slam it and it will ride like a wagon.
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