VR6 Tubular manifold in progress...
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Flanges are coming tomo to build a jig, then the final welding can be done. Since i don't have the car at my disposal, my brother sent me a jig that gave me turbo placement, and the runners were built off that. As you can see on the 1&2 runners, the block pertrudes out about 3-4'' compared to the rest....this along with the rear motor mount were the main issues..

Clearance with mount:


Clearance with mount:

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mtber »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That looks like a lot of work
Nice
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Seriously. But hard work is always rewarded
Nice
</TD></TR></TABLE>Seriously. But hard work is always rewarded
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wow that looks nice.
how in the hell are you going to weld all the the tubes to the collector!?!?
from my experiance of the VW crowd...they are going to be tuff to sell unless you sell them for $23 dollars hahaha.
looks sick
how in the hell are you going to weld all the the tubes to the collector!?!?
from my experiance of the VW crowd...they are going to be tuff to sell unless you sell them for $23 dollars hahaha.
looks sick
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you have to figure out the certain order to always leave room...kinda like playing that games where you remove pegs
I know how the vw crowd is...but it seems some of them have seen the light and actually want nice parts. I have 1 sold thats getting a 42r on a drag car, another thats getting a 40r and a bunch going on built motors with 35r's. , I'll have dyno's soon on a 400whp vr6, before and after vs. atp log manifold
Modified by TurboJesse at 5:06 PM 5/10/2006
I know how the vw crowd is...but it seems some of them have seen the light and actually want nice parts. I have 1 sold thats getting a 42r on a drag car, another thats getting a 40r and a bunch going on built motors with 35r's. , I'll have dyno's soon on a 400whp vr6, before and after vs. atp log manifold
Modified by TurboJesse at 5:06 PM 5/10/2006
Let me preface this with saying this isn't to start an arguement or a flame war. You did some nice work there BUT How do you think we should take the following quote?
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I mean, it's not like we're reinventing the wheel or anything or feel like we've made the 1st and only tubular turbo header. The similarity between yours and ours is one thing, big deal to that, if anything it's flattering, but after reading the above quote, could it possibly be interpeted any other way other than trying to lowball us and take money out of our pockets/food off our plates?
It's a small community/industry, build them and sell them for whatever you feel is worth it to you, but why **** on someones socks if you don't have to?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TurboJesse »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I can sell it about $300 cheaper than the racecraft manifold, and be happy</TD></TR></TABLE>
I mean, it's not like we're reinventing the wheel or anything or feel like we've made the 1st and only tubular turbo header. The similarity between yours and ours is one thing, big deal to that, if anything it's flattering, but after reading the above quote, could it possibly be interpeted any other way other than trying to lowball us and take money out of our pockets/food off our plates?
It's a small community/industry, build them and sell them for whatever you feel is worth it to you, but why **** on someones socks if you don't have to?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 16vt »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I mean, it's not like we're reinventing the wheel or anything or feel like we've made the 1st and only tubular turbo header. The similarity between yours and ours is one thing, big deal to that, if anything it's flattering, ?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I apologized about the pricing...thats one thing..
As for the similarity, i wouldn't go that far. Flange placement is very different. Being able to run a 4" inlet pipe with filter was a concern. So were the ac lines, etc. Compare the collectors? low angle merge vs. splayed out. Obviously different collector angles and different placement will mean different runners, etc. I thought it was common knowledge to run the 1/3/5 to front of the collector and 2/4/6 to the back? Ive built and pulled this thing apart about 5 times before i ended up with this...So don't be too flattered and go thinking that i could actually copy a manifold off a 2"x2" picture on your website.
I mean, it's not like we're reinventing the wheel or anything or feel like we've made the 1st and only tubular turbo header. The similarity between yours and ours is one thing, big deal to that, if anything it's flattering, ?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I apologized about the pricing...thats one thing..
As for the similarity, i wouldn't go that far. Flange placement is very different. Being able to run a 4" inlet pipe with filter was a concern. So were the ac lines, etc. Compare the collectors? low angle merge vs. splayed out. Obviously different collector angles and different placement will mean different runners, etc. I thought it was common knowledge to run the 1/3/5 to front of the collector and 2/4/6 to the back? Ive built and pulled this thing apart about 5 times before i ended up with this...So don't be too flattered and go thinking that i could actually copy a manifold off a 2"x2" picture on your website.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Turbo-charged »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wow that looks nice.
how in the hell are you going to weld all the the tubes to the collector!?!?
from my experiance of the VW crowd...they are going to be tuff to sell unless you sell them for $23 dollars hahaha.
looks sick
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Yeah, I would like to know how you plan on welding all the way round the runners? Unless you plan on taking it apart and welding it as you go, now that you have the correct dimensions.
how in the hell are you going to weld all the the tubes to the collector!?!?
from my experiance of the VW crowd...they are going to be tuff to sell unless you sell them for $23 dollars hahaha.
looks sick
</TD></TR></TABLE>Yeah, I would like to know how you plan on welding all the way round the runners? Unless you plan on taking it apart and welding it as you go, now that you have the correct dimensions.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mugencrxsir1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Yeah, I would like to know how you plan on welding all the way round the runners? Unless you plan on taking it apart and welding it as you go, now that you have the correct dimensions.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Every runner has to be taken off to be welded. They then are re-assembled one at a time. Finding the correct order to re-assemble them is the bitch. You always have to think ahead
Yeah, I would like to know how you plan on welding all the way round the runners? Unless you plan on taking it apart and welding it as you go, now that you have the correct dimensions.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Every runner has to be taken off to be welded. They then are re-assembled one at a time. Finding the correct order to re-assemble them is the bitch. You always have to think ahead
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I have on a BMW...
Maybe when i have a car at the shop it might be interesting to see 6-1 vs. 6-2-1, especially on a motor like a vr6. This should work alot better than a log manifold for now
I'll also be trying a few different intake manifolds on the car.... I built this one last year, fitment is tight in a corrado but after some space is freed up a larger plenum with velocity stacks is in the works
I have on a BMW...
Maybe when i have a car at the shop it might be interesting to see 6-1 vs. 6-2-1, especially on a motor like a vr6. This should work alot better than a log manifold for now
I'll also be trying a few different intake manifolds on the car.... I built this one last year, fitment is tight in a corrado but after some space is freed up a larger plenum with velocity stacks is in the works
I was like man that manifold looks big but then i was like they have some room back there. A sludge hammer helps out too.
josh
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMCRX »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I was like man that manifold looks big but then i was like they have some room back there. A sludge hammer helps out too.
josh</TD></TR></TABLE>
it actually brings it closer to the motor than the cast manifold in the picture above
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it actually brings it closer to the motor than the cast manifold in the picture above


