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Old May 6, 2006 | 10:58 PM
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my 96 ek with a b16a2 swap is shaking when i drive around 10-20mph. I'm not sure it's shaking any harder when i'm going faster, because it's still a project in the works. Anyhow the shaking seems to be shaking left to right when i accelerate. It also seems to be coming from the right front side. I replaced the wheel, it turned out not to be that. I checked the right axle, even replaced it, and it wasn't that either. I inspected the tie rods, and everything seems fine. what else can it be. I do have a H brace on the car, and an si sway bar. The sway bar endlinks, the bolt wouldn't come out..and if you know what i'm talking about the 4 gray holes at the end of the endlinks is cracked, but it seems to still work fine. is the sway bar causing the problems? what else can it be?
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Old May 6, 2006 | 11:17 PM
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Have the wheels been balanced?
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Old May 7, 2006 | 03:42 AM
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yes
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Old May 7, 2006 | 03:46 AM
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u sure u don't have mud on hte inside or threw a weight off it?
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Old May 7, 2006 | 04:09 AM
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nope. i even changed the wheels with my friends car also that he drives everyday with no problems just to make sure.
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Old May 7, 2006 | 04:16 AM
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How do you know its not the axles?
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Old May 7, 2006 | 04:43 AM
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did you check the inner CV joint, does it vibrate under load? or just curising at 10-20? in all gears?

check fluid...
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Old May 7, 2006 | 05:35 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM_Ej &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How do you know its not the axles?</TD></TR></TABLE>
because i inspected the axle. even replaced it with a new one. that was the first thing i thought it was also, but it turned out not to be it.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4sd4dr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">did you check the inner CV joint, does it vibrate under load? or just curising at 10-20? in all gears?</TD></TR></TABLE>
when idle or the car is still, everything is fine. only when crusing. doen'st matter what gear im in, as long as i'm moving around 10mph+ it starts shaking...it feels like the engine & tranny is shaking left to right.

I did also check the motor and tranny mounts.. those are fine.

would it be the sway bar causing the shaking?
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Old May 7, 2006 | 06:32 AM
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I dont think the sway bar would have any effect unless you were cornering.
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Old May 7, 2006 | 08:14 AM
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what kinda axels are you using?
ive gotton autozone axels with broken cv's but the axel was new(plant assembly problem) i guess, also do you have the right axels? maby ones to long.

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Old May 7, 2006 | 08:19 AM
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People have gotten multiple bad axles from Autozone. Shitty re-man's. If its a bad axle, it would probably get progressivly worse the faster you go.
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Old May 7, 2006 | 08:43 AM
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Could be the broken endlink on the swaybar, but it's more likely a really bad wheel bearing. If it's only happening at 10-20mph, then it's a harmonic issue, which means the problem will be rotating in a circle. Check the hub and the brake rotor for damage as well, because even though it's unlikely, it's possible that they could be off enough to cause some odd noise/shaking/vibrations while driving.
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Old May 7, 2006 | 09:26 AM
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well the axle i'm using right now is my oem one. I know what you guys are talking about. I bought the axle at pepboys, and after installing it, the gears on the axles that goes inside the tranny was small, so it wasn't even actually spinning. I had to return that, and get a 2nd one from pepboys. It was also harder to install. somehow it was alittle longer than the oem one. It still did the shaking thing, so i returned it and just used my oem one.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Archidictus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Could be the broken endlink on the swaybar, but it's more likely a really bad wheel bearing. If it's only happening at 10-20mph, then it's a harmonic issue, which means the problem will be rotating in a circle. Check the hub and the brake rotor for damage as well, because even though it's unlikely, it's possible that they could be off enough to cause some odd noise/shaking/vibrations while driving.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah it is a problem that rotating in a circle. when i move 10-20mph, it shakes left and right over and over. i have a short shifter, and can see the shifter wiggling left and right also. It doesn't do it slowly. it moves pretty fast left and right. i also thought it was the brake rotor. examined it also. seems fine. doesn't look warped. spun the spindle and examined that too.

I just wanted to verify, that's its not my H brace, or sway bar. I wanted to rule out some stuff...
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Old May 7, 2006 | 09:32 AM
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how do your tires look u may have a separated tire in front
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Old May 7, 2006 | 11:01 AM
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Any grinding noises at all? My lude did everything you described but also had a grinding sound. Turned out to be a shot wheel bearing.
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Old May 7, 2006 | 11:14 AM
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i had same problem with my 96 civic wit b18c swap check wheel bearings they go bad round 120,000 miles i went thru axles like crazy
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Old May 7, 2006 | 12:52 PM
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check your wheel berring
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Old May 7, 2006 | 01:57 PM
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Jack up the front end, take both wheels off. Then run it up see if it still shakes have someone watching the front axles and watch them shake if they do. My buddy had the same problem with is 02si we did that checked it out and it was just the axle. But you never know could be a warped rotor or bad caliper even though your not on the brakes. Just a suggestion.
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Old May 7, 2006 | 03:18 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by teggrl &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Jack up the front end, take both wheels off. Then run it up see if it still shakes have someone watching the front axles and watch them shake if they do. My buddy had the same problem with is 02si we did that checked it out and it was just the axle. But you never know could be a warped rotor or bad caliper even though your not on the brakes. Just a suggestion. </TD></TR></TABLE>
that's actually a good idea, i don't know why i didn't think of that......i'll try that out

i'll check the wheel bearing again this week.

no grinding noise.....drives pretty straight, but shaking left to right

i have checked the tires, like i said before, i tried on set of different rims w/ tires already..stock steelies, 05 ex rims, and aftermarket 15"...i'm pretty sure it's not the wheels.

thanks guy..i'll try to update in a few days.
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Old May 10, 2006 | 06:23 PM
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okay guys..i'm updating. I finally got a chance to take both front wheels off. here's a video of the noise, and what's going on...also is the driver side axle suppose to move, because it wasn't. http://home.comcast.net/~havier123/axle.avi
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Old May 10, 2006 | 06:28 PM
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have you checked your wheel bearings yet??
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Old May 10, 2006 | 06:40 PM
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yes i shook it.
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Old May 10, 2006 | 06:47 PM
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balljoints, maybe?
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Old May 10, 2006 | 07:09 PM
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wheel bearings!!
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Old May 10, 2006 | 07:34 PM
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nekoabandoned, have you seen the video? are you sure? that would cause shaking?
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