i know im goin to get the **** kicked out of me by askin this but here it goes....ok so if i wanted to state ref my 94 civic gsr what do i have to do and how much does that **** cost if any of you have done it "which im pretty sure they have" let me know whats up cause im trading my 96 dx coupe for that gsr and i want to state ref it...o and i need a cat to smog it cuz the guy said the cat was bad so if any of you wanna sell a cat let me know any info will help thnx

 

its called search. try looking at the top of the page

 

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1530072

my thread

 

Assuming you have a USDM GSR motor, you already have a head start. Just go in and test it as is. Then the ref will fail you and give you a list of EXACTLY EVERYTHING you need to pass. Then follow the list. Then go back in for your FREE retest and pass.

The basics:
1) find a vacuum diagram for a 1994 GSR and make sure all of the components are hooked up (if you need one, pm me).
2)make sure you have your 02 sensor hooked up.
3)make sure your ecu is a p72-a01
4)make sure all of your electrical connections are hooked up
5)make sure your timing is set to 16* btdc
6)make sure any aftermarket parts have a CARB EO number.
7)change oil, spark plugs, dizzy cap and rotor, and use some "Guaranteed to Pass" a tankful before you test.
8)On the day of the test, drive your car HARD to get the cat nice and hot.
9)Make sure the motor is the same year or newer than your car (I know hybrid93eg will get on my case if he reads this)
10)make sure your car is high enough to get on the rollers.

Make sure your engine bay looks clean and stock, no mickey mouse hack jobs.

 

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+ or- 2 It does make a small difference(and helped me pass )
but yeah definatly do everything on that list. Just a tip though, you may want to get all the wiring soldered and heatshrunk.(the ref @ pierce college gave me **** for having some connections crimmped) good luck

 

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http://www.craigslist.org/sfc/car/157488919.html check out that link thats the car tell me if you think i got a good deal on trade for my 96 dx coupe

 

and how much does it cost to ref and bar

 

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I think they bumped it up to $60 something. But the retest is still FREE.

 

thats good some dude told me it cost him like 500 to ref his **** but thats probley what he had to pay to get his refd

 

cuz of all the parts he had to get to make his pass

 

and what is the biggest motor you can state ref cuz i heard its hard to state ref a h22 or b20 into a civic they said the highest you can go is 1.8

 

err, who said that?

H22 yes you can bar, i dont see why not. B20 is a no no because it is classified as a "Light Truck." You CANNOT put truck engines in a passenger car. There is no limitation on the "size" of the engine, as long as it is from a passenger car.

Where are you getting this info?

Read this:

Overview
-Engine changes continue to present problems and challenges to car owners and technicians. Here are some tips to keep you and your customers on the straight and narrow.
-Our recommendation is to rebuild and reinstall the original engine, transmission, and emission control configuration.
-When rebuilding an engine, it must be rebuilt to the original equipment specifications. However, if you do decide to change the engine, these guidelines must be observed to ensure that the vehicle will be eligible for smog certification or registration.
-Remember, these are guidelines for performing engine changes -- not certification procedures. All exhaust emission controlled vehicles with engine changes must be inspected by an official referee station and must have a Bureau of Automotive Repair (BAR) Vehicle Identification Label affixed to the doorpost.
-Remember also, state and federal anti-tampering laws generally prohibit any modification to the vehicle's original emission control system configuration as certified by the manufacturer. And, Section 3362.1 of the California Code of Regulations prohibits any engine change that degrades the effectiveness of a vehicle's emission control system.

California Certification
-A federal Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) certified (federal or 49-state) engine cannot be used in a vehicle that was originally certified for California.

Certification Standards
-Make sure the engine and emission control configuration on exhaust - controlled vehicles are certified to the year of the vehicle or newer, and to the same or a more stringent new vehicle certification standard.

Classification
-Don't mix engine and vehicle classifications which will degrade the emissions certification standards. For example, a heavy-duty engine cannot be installed in a light-duty exhaust-controlled chassis even if they have the same displacement. Non-emissions controlled power plants such as industrial or off-road-use-only engines may not be placed in any exhaust-controlled vehicle.

Computer Controls
-If a computer-controlled engine is installed in a non-computerized vehicle, the "CHECK ENGINE" light, the Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM) diagnostic link, and all sensors, switches, and wiring harnesses needed to make the system fully functional must also be installed.

Emission Control Configuration
-Mixing and matching emission control system components could cause problems and is generally not allowed. Engine and emission control systems must be in an engine-chassis configuration certified by the California Air Resources Board (ARB) or U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). The engine must meet or exceed the requirements for the year and class of vehicle in which it is installed.

Emission Warranty
-Voiding the vehicle manufacturer's emission warranty is not allowed.

Engine Modifications
-No internal or external engine modifications (cams, pistons, intakes, etc.) may be performed unless the parts are ARB-exempted or EPA-certified for use in the installed engine. Use the database on this site to search for aftermarket parts covered by ARB Executive Orders.

Original Equipment
-The installed engine and host chassis must retain all of their original emission control equipment. Diesel-to-gasoline conversions must have all gasoline engine and chassis emission control systems installed (such as fillpipe restrictor, catalytic converter and evaporative emission system).

Smog Inspection
These vehicles must pass a complete smog inspection (visual, functional, and tailpipe).

CARB aftermarket guidelines.
quote:

Japanese Replacement Engines
-Used engines imported from Japan can be used as replacement engines as long as the engine being used has been identified as functionally identical to the original engine.


quote:

Engine Changes
-Engine changes are legal as long as the following requirements are met to ensure that the change does not increase pollution from the vehicle:

-The engine must be the same year or newer than the vehicle.
-The engine must be from the same type of vehicle (passenger car, light-duty truck, heavy- duty truck, etc.) based on gross vehicle weight.
-If the vehicle is a California certified vehicle then the engine must also be a California certified engine.
-All emissions control equipment must remain on the installed engine.
-After an engine change, vehicles must first be inspected by a state referee station. The vehicle will be inspected to ensure that all the equipment required is in place, and vehicle will be emissions tested subject to the specifications of the installed engine.

 

hey man thanks alot im exited cuz its time for me to build my nasty *** street/strip hatch ........thnx again

 

Sorry for bringin it back, but does anyone know if the ref's will pass a GSR with A/C, P/S, C/C, and airbags taken out? I know these have nothing to do with emissions, but would they fail me cuz these oem parts are missing...assuming I pass smog/visual.

 

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No You can pass with all these stuff gone. You dont need P/S and all that crap.

 

Thats what I figured, just wanted a second opinion. It seems they'd fail me if my airbags were missing though, cuz its illegal to tamper with safety devices. Do sparco steering wheels still pass visual?

 

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My guess would be if its not directly related to the emmisions control unit your fine. The visual is mainly for under your hood and your ecu so your fine with your steering wheel.

 

Thanks for the info fellas