The B16 just isn't doing it for me anymore, so I picked up a GSR block. Here's the plan:

B16A2 head
B18C1 block
GSR or LS crank
P30 or PR3 pistons
2-layer headgasket
JDM ITR 4-1
Test pipe

I'm saving up for valvetrain/cams. And a Profab header, only because I like my A/C and P/S. I was going to do PCT's but the compression would be a little much for me. The block's coming bare, which is the reason for the LS crank. That and more torque. The rods should bolt up just fine. I'll be using new bearing, of course, as well as ARP hardware. My question is about the oil squirters. I know the have to be bent, but how much?

Unless I get a GSR crank :hint hint: Feel free to voice your opinions

 

I prefer the 87 crank over the 89, but thats just me.

 

while it doesnt actually make torque like an engine modification would, a 4.7, 4.9 or 5.0 final drive can help in a big way.

 

don't quote me on this, but i believe you will have to do some modification of the GSR block to get the LS crank to fit

 

i would use the GSR crank an rods before i would ever use the LS crank an LS rods.

ill trade revs for reliability any day. IE, stock GSR rods can see 9000, i wouldnt try it with LS rods.
The gain an hassle of using the LS crank just isnt worth it IMO

my .02

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by black_EM1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The B16 just isn't doing it for me anymore, so I picked up a GSR block. Here's the plan:

B16A2 head
B18C1 block
GSR or LS crank
P30 or PR3 pistons
2-layer headgasket
JDM ITR 4-1
Test pipe

I'm saving up for valvetrain/cams. And a Profab header, only because I like my A/C and P/S. I was going to do PCT's but the compression would be a little much for me. The block's coming bare, which is the reason for the LS crank. That and more torque. The rods should bolt up just fine. I'll be using new bearing, of course, as well as ARP hardware. My question is about the oil squirters. I know the have to be bent, but how much?

Unless I get a GSR crank :hint hint: Feel free to voice your opinions</TD></TR></TABLE>

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1081578

Oil squirter blockoff FTW

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by black_EM1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The B16 just isn't doing it for me anymore, so I picked up a GSR block. Here's the plan:

B16A2 head
B18C1 block
GSR or LS crank
P30 or PR3 pistons
2-layer headgasket
JDM ITR 4-1
Test pipe

I'm saving up for valvetrain/cams. And a Profab header, only because I like my A/C and P/S. I was going to do PCT's but the compression would be a little much for me. The block's coming bare, which is the reason for the LS crank. That and more torque. The rods should bolt up just fine. I'll be using new bearing, of course, as well as ARP hardware. My question is about the oil squirters. I know the have to be bent, but how much?

Unless I get a GSR crank :hint hint: Feel free to voice your opinions</TD></TR></TABLE>

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1081578

Oil squirter blockoff


Or you can bend the squirters and check clearance.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Nick M &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">while it doesnt actually make torque like an engine modification would, a 4.7, 4.9 or 5.0 final drive can help in a big way.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yes sir

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Nick M &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">while it doesnt actually make torque like an engine modification would, a 4.7, 4.9 or 5.0 final drive can help in a big way.</TD></TR></TABLE>

My ATS 4.9 FD has been my favorite mod.

 

a honda with torque.....lol...jk good luck w/ the project

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by infinite_eh2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">a honda with torque.....lol...jk good luck w/ the project</TD></TR></TABLE>

^^ oh it's on now

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VtecKiDD &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i would use the GSR crank an rods before i would ever use the LS crank an LS rods.

ill trade revs for reliability any day. IE, stock GSR rods can see 9000, i wouldnt try it with LS rods.
The gain an hassle of using the LS crank just isnt worth it IMO

my .02</TD></TR></TABLE>

Mike, you and I both know that LS rods can handle 9000 RPM.

Just get some ARP rod bolts and some ACL's, and you'd be good to go.

But anyway, good luck with the build. Smart man, by not choosing the PCT pistons.

- Derek

 

Ya, CTR was my original choice. Then as I learned more, I found out I could make more power with less compression. This owing to the fact that I wouldn't have to pull timing all the way out to the distributor. Big cams were an option, and still are, but I'll still be way under the pinging threshold.

 

i plan on doing the same. I think I'm just gonna stick with the GSR internals

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by black_EM1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ya, CTR was my original choice. Then as I learned more, I found out I could make more power with less compression. This owing to the fact that I wouldn't have to pull timing all the way out to the distributor. Big cams were an option, and still are, but I'll still be way under the pinging threshold.
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Interesting, I would have thought differently....

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Nick M &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">while it doesnt actually make torque like an engine modification would, a 4.7, 4.9 or 5.0 final drive can help in a big way.</TD></TR></TABLE>

exactly.

glad to see that there are more people believing in the final drive upgrade

 

To this day, I still want an ATS 4.9. But B16 trany + 4.9FD = shitty gas mileage. LS 5th might work, though. Unfortunately, I'm in the military. Therefore, poor

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by black_EM1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">To this day, I still want an ATS 4.9. But B16 trany + 4.9FD = shitty gas mileage.</TD></TR></TABLE>

no not really

 

Vtec kidd i have a question for you. Why do you think a ls crank and rods are not reliable. My 2 cents are the gsr oil squirters and block girdle are more reliable yes but what makes a GSR rods and crank more reliable?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HYBRID FREAK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Vtec kidd i have a question for you. Why do you think a ls crank and rods are not reliable. My 2 cents are the gsr oil squirters and block girdle are more reliable yes but what makes a GSR rods and crank more reliable?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Quit threadjacking, n00b. And to answer your question, for one a GSR crank is balanced to hold up to those revs from the factory. Is an LS? I think not

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no not really</TD></TR></TABLE>

As far as I know. I really do want a 4.9FD, though

 

Black em1 just cause you got 500+ posts doesnt mean your not a noob and how bout i shut your lip and we run and mine your own business next time.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HYBRID FREAK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Black em1 just cause you got 500+ posts doesnt mean your not a noob and how bout i shut your lip and we run and mine your own business next time.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i think its "mind" your own business

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by black_EM1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">To this day, I still want an ATS 4.9. But B16 trany + 4.9FD = shitty gas mileage. LS 5th might work, though. Unfortunately, I'm in the military. Therefore, poor</TD></TR></TABLE>

My ITR tranny + ATS 4.9 gets 30mpg with 226whp and 2.0L

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HYBRID FREAK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Black em1 just cause you got 500+ posts doesnt mean your not a noob and how bout i shut your lip and we run and mine your own business next time.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Are you serious? Go away n00b.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by black_EM1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Quit threadjacking, n00b. And to answer your question, for one a GSR crank is balanced to hold up to those revs from the factory. Is an LS? I think not</TD></TR></TABLE>

w0rd.. but an LS bottom end CAN be balanced to withstand HIGH RPMs, safely anyway.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HYBRID FREAK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Black em1 just cause you got 500+ posts doesnt mean your not a noob and how bout i shut your lip and we run and mine your own business next time.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Intelligence &gt; You.

Secondly, I am minding my own business. It's my thread. Now GTFO. As a matter of fact get the expletive out of this forum, n00b. People like you are a walking arguement for birth control. As far as threatening me? You must not know what I do for a living.

Back on topic:<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92TypeR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

My ITR tranny + ATS 4.9 gets 30mpg with 226whp and 2.0L</TD></TR></TABLE>

My original plan after deployment was to get an ITR tranny, and hopefully be happy with that. But I got a good deal on a newer B16 tranny. I broke my first one, and it was readily available. Any more opinions on the upcoming build?