Hi,

I have Accord 98, milleage 99000, with automatic transmission. It seems that every time I start my car (when the engine is not hot enough), there is delayed engagement in drive or reverse.

I went to the dealer and they said to me that I have to replace the transmission. Is this true?

I just want to make sure that this is the only way that will fix the problem, since if possible, I don't want to spend much money on the replacement.

Thanks.
nsutanto.

 

Is it shifting rough too?
If it's not slipping while driving I would reccomend first having your transmission flushed with Honda ATF-Z1 and drive it for a while. That will correct most shifting problems. But if not mabye a reman trans would be needed.

 

Well,

Shifting is rough when the engine is not hot.. So, after driving maybe 10 minutes, it goes well..

-nsutanto.

 

I don't know anything about automatic transmissions but just wanted to say that if you have to replace it, you may want to consider an automatic to manual transmission swap.

It is my understanding that this is significantly less, and you won't have to worry about the automatic transmission anymore.

 

I have a 98 4cyl AT, and am at like 110000, and I have no problems thus far, yeah alittle rough sometimes, but have not had problems with it engaging, yeah, I would check the tranny fluid and get it changed, i did that and shifting improved dramatically. And doing the tranny swap will be cheaper. when was the last time you had a tune-up?

 

take it to the honda dealer and tell them to replace it as they suggested. Good luck with that becuase it is unlikely you will get help from AHMC with the car being near the 100K cutoff for the warranty coverage on the 00-01 cars. The 98,99, and 02 cars are not covered.

is ur car a V6?

Last estimate I got from a dealer was $3800 to $5K


Modified by YeuEmMaiMai at 3:24 PM 5/4/2006

 

How much did the dealership quote u to fix the problem? Cuz I have a 98 accord and it does the same thing until it just didnt want to go in to gear at all.

 

between 3 and 5 thousand for the trans.

 

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Sell the car, trade it in. Even if you get the trans fixed. It is likely that it will come back.

 

The problem is that you have the V6. Period. The V6 transmission sucks a big *******.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsutanto &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hi,

I have Accord 98, milleage 99000, with automatic transmission. It seems that every time I start my car (when the engine is not hot enough), there is delayed engagement in drive or reverse.

I went to the dealer and they said to me that I have to replace the transmission. Is this true?

I just want to make sure that this is the only way that will fix the problem, since if possible, I don't want to spend much money on the replacement.

Thanks.
nsutanto.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I made the mistake of using a trans rebuild shop and it is just nothing but problems since then

rough reverse engagement

hangs intermittently in 1st gear (shifts at 3 K even under light throttle when cold- does not happen in any other gear)

slams into 4th gear at partial throttle

all other shifts are so hard that they have put undue stress on my mouns and they are a lot looser than when I first got the car

 

I just got mine rebuilt at a local tranny shop, so far it's running great, they had about 6 other accords at the shop when I picked mine up, it cost me $2,500.

 

I have a problem sometimes like when Im at my gf's house the driveway is on a hill and when I shift from drive to reverse it makes this nasty grind. Thats the only problem Ive ever had. Do you guys have a problem when your at a light at a slight incline and the car is in drive it will roll backwards. I have a 2000 accord by the way, 4cyl.

 

well mine used to shift really hard into reverse, but that was a broken support.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by steadypimpin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a problem sometimes like when Im at my gf's house the driveway is on a hill and when I shift from drive to reverse it makes this nasty grind. Thats the only problem Ive ever had. Do you guys have a problem when your at a light at a slight incline and the car is in drive it will roll backwards. I have a 2000 accord by the way, 4cyl.</TD></TR></TABLE>
When you park on a steep incline like that use the parking brake and it shouldn't do that (shift to park and while still holding the brake pull the parking brake then release the pedal)
Rolling backwards is a normal thing, my civic does it too

 

good I thought it might be a transmission problem but it only does it if its on an incline.

 

You shouldn't shift into reverse with a manual honda if the car is moving(any direction). Even with the clutch in.

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when parking on an incline you MUST set your parking brake. Not only does it prevent you from putting excessive stress on the parking pawl, it will prevent your car from rolling backwards/forwards if the pawl breaks.

 

After consulting several trans experts, here is the reason your 98 Accord transmission is not functioning properly when the car is "cold": *** The transmissions used in the 98, 99, 00, 01 V6 Honda Accords have faulty factory torque converters... Basically, the torque converter has a some type of friction material (similar to a brake pad) that peels and flakes off, clogging the filter, and eventually ruining the entire transmission. If you are experiencing this problem, just face it, you are screwed... Eventually, the torque converter or the entire tranny will fail. More than likely, your transmission filter is clogging, thus starving the torque converter of fluid. Once the car has reached operating temperature, the transmission fluid viscosity thins and the fluid is able to pass through the filter to the torque converter, allowing the transmission to function normally.

*** I am not a mechanic, so DO NOT consider this professional advice - but a transmission specialist (he knows Honda transmissions) did tell me to do the following for a temporary fix:

I was told to drop the transmission pan and dump the fluid. Do not vacuum/flush the fluid off of the torque converter... simply drop the pan and dump the fluid from the pan. Next, replace the transmission filter and pan seal, then refill transmission with Honda fluid (you may be able to get away with a cheaper fluid, but most people will tell you NOT to use anything but Honda OEM trans fluid). If you want, also add some "POWER-UP" (this stuff is awesome, but pricey) or some "LUCAS TRANSMISSION ADDITIVE"... Do this at your own risk - this is not a recommend fix by the manufacturer. By completing this procedure, you will clear the clogged fluid path between the filter and torque converter, allowing the transmission to function properly during a "cold start"... Next, take the car to Honda, at the end of the month, and trade the d@mn POS in - Let them deal with it.

FYI - Here is my story I posted on http://www.autofan.com/forum_t...10543 :

- 1999 Honda Accord EX V6 w/ 130,000 miles - Check engine code is "PO740" - Torque converter / clutch malfunction.

* Honda's Fix - replace the transmission ($2000 - $4000 USD for parts and labor according to several quotes)

I began experiencing a noticable transmission problem about a month ago... When the engine is cold, there is a hard shift into reverse and drive, as well as a long hesitation from 2nd to 1st gear when stopping. When the car is at operating temperature, the problem does not exist.

I began searching the Internet, looking for similar issues with Honda transmissions... I typed "1999 Honda Accord transmission problem" into Google and was surprised to find sooo many topics related to this specific make and model.

After talking to several transmission specialist (I know them personally), I found out that the transmissions used in the 98, 99, 00, 01 V6 Honda Accords have faulty factory torque converters... Basically, the torque converter has a some type of friction material (similar to a brake pad) that peels and flakes off, clogging the filter, and eventually ruining the entire transmission. If you are experiencing this problem, just face it, you are screwed... Eventually, the torque converter or the entire tranny will fail.

***READ THIS*** Do not take your car to a Honda dealership to confirm the "PO740" check-engine light error code. They will charge you a diagnostics fee (I paid $96.00 in Alabama) to tell you something that you already know... "The transmission needs to be REPLACED"!!!

I called my local Honda dealer, explained the trouble I was experiencing with my transmission, and also told the service department that I knew this was a KNOWN PROBLEM and would like Honda to help out with the cost of repair. The service tech told me, "Well, your VIN # does not show a recall, but you can bring it in and we will take a look at it... Then we will be able to tell you if Honda can help out or not." So, I left my car at the dealership and they charged me $96.00 to tell me that I need a new tranny and Honda would not help out on repair costs at all... The tech told me, "Your car has 130,000 miles on it... you should expect problems to occur to cars with this mileage." DUDE!!!! This is a freakin' HONDA... you know, the cars that drive 200,000+ miles without any problems. What in the hell is going on? I would expect you to say something about another manufacturer, but not HONDA.

Obviously, Honda is very aware of the problem because they extended the warranty on 00 and 01 models, but not the 98 and 99's.

The bottom line is this: Honda factory torque converters located inside 98, 99, 00, and 01 V6 Accords have a MAJOR FLAW - and Honda knows about it... but, they continue to blow it off.

If a class-action lawsuit is filed against Honda, I would love to be a part of it.

 

bogus advice since the trans does not have a pan for you to drop

and the guy who told you that about the torque converter is shall we say screwy

Problem areas are as follows (not in any particular order)

1: Differential bearing failure. If your axle seals leak that is usually an indication of bearing failure-like 99.99999% of the time.

Problem solution: Install updated bearings of sufficient hardness

2. Lack of 2nd gear lubrication causing clutch pack to fail prematurely and this in turn cloggs the inline filter (not accessable unless you overhaul trans)

Problem solution: Install updated clutch packs and oil jet kit

trans casing



torque coverter housing



left side cover

 

No transmission pan... That's great. I have not had a look for myself, so I was taking the mechanics word for it. I hope he just misunderstood the year or something... But, as a matter of fact, I do have a seal leak where the transmission connects to the axle.

After reading your signature YeuEmMaiMai, I can see you are more than familiar with the problems these cars are having.

 

My ride has been in the shop since LAST WEDNESDAY and they still haven't got it right. Thery rebuilt the freaking thing in january of this year and it still isn't right........


Edit: Just to clarify, I took my car to trans shop on january 9th, received car back on january 11th, nothing but problems. On average it has been back to them an average of every 2 weeks for problems. I am really beyond pissed off. Since rebuild they had to replace

2nd shift flare
"C" solenoid

They guessed it was a 3-4 pressure switch but it tested out good. They now told me last week when I gave them my car that the problem is internal and that they have adjusted the "Linear Pressure Switch" using a special tool that they had to get delivered to them. I even had to go as far as get the owner of the company involved and even then I has to ask him "does your car do this?" "I bet if this was your mom's car it would not take you 6+ months to figure out what the problem is"

I am so pissed off. WTF I paid them on time and gave them my business and all I get in return is BIG PITA.

Since January I have been without my car a total of 15 days... and I only drive my car an an average of 3.5 days a week (work only ride)



Modified by YeuEmMaiMai at 4:51 PM 7/3/2006

 

mine went out awhile back, got it rebuild not at a dealer. paid 1500, they used all OEM Honda parts. got about 40,000 on the tranny already and it still running good. Get estimate at tranny shop before you decide to take it to the dealer. ask the shop, what type of parts they're gonna be using. make sure they say ALL OEM HONDA.